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A study in enforcementWhat do the goons do?

Tyler Dellow had a post on the Oilers' Zack Stortini a few weeks back about what happens when the enforcer's on the ice, and the answer seemed to be 'not much.' When he's not fighting, he's not generating chances and the coach has to try to keep him away from any situation where the team might potentially give up a goal.

Stortini's played about 6.5 minutes per game over 12 games this season, and seen no goals for and two goals against while he's on the ice.

It all made me wonder: What does happen when goons are out there? Do any of them contribute in ways other than dropping the gloves? And who is the best enforcer when it comes to non-fighting attributes?

I'm going to try and keep this limited to traditional "goons," big guys who play little and are basically there for only to draw blood. Smaller players who can play and are among the lead leaders in fighting majors, like David Clarkson and Dan Carcillo, need not apply.

Our goon sample:

Rk Player Team GP Mins Fights PIM
1 Jared Boll Cmb 21 6.91 7 66
2 Riley Cote Phi 16 3.60 7 51
3 Eric Godard Cal 19 4.78 6 62
4 Derek Boogaard Min 20 3.44 6 52
5 Brad May Ana 20 6.65 5 41
6 Milan Lucic Bos 18 7.20 5 31
7 Ben Eager Phi 16 5.27 4 44
8 Andre Roy TB 22 4.66 4 30
9 D.J. King StL 15 5.40 4 28
10 George Parros Ana 21 4.73 4 26
11 David Koci Chi 8 3.63 4 26
12 Shawn Thornton Bos 13 6.44 4 22
13 Donald Brashear Was 22 5.17 3 40
14 Todd Fedoruk Min 12 7.01 3 37
15 Colton Orr NYR 23 6.87 3 33
16 Brian McGrattan Ott 12 3.11 3 15
17 Zack Stortini Edm 12 6.61 2 42
18 Georges Laraque Pit 14 7.40 2 14
19 Wade Belak Tor 8 3.38 2 14
20 Eric Boulton Atl 19 6.46 2 12

That should be a pretty good representative sample of guys who are punching each other this season.

One of the most difficult things in measuring what goons do is in the fact that (a) they don't play very much and (b) they don't do very much when they're out there. Here's a look at goals for and against rates for all 20 enforcers:


NAME TEAM GP GFON GAON GFON/60 GAON/60 +-ON/60
1 MCGRATTAN OTT 12 1 0 1.61 0.00 1.61
2 PARROS ANA 21 2 0 1.21 0.00 1.21
3 COTE PHI 16 2 1 2.09 1.04 1.04
4 MAY ANA 20 6 4 2.71 1.80 0.90
5 FEDORUK MIN 12 3 2 2.14 1.43 0.71
6 BRASHEAR WSH 22 3 2 1.58 1.05 0.53
7 BOLL CBJ 21 4 3 1.65 1.24 0.41
8 KING STL 15 2 2 1.48 1.48 0.00
9 KOCI CHI 8 0 0 0.00 0.00 0.00
10 GODARD CGY 19 1 2 0.66 1.32 -0.66
11 LUCIC BOS 18 3 5 1.39 2.31 -0.93
12 LARAQUE PIT 14 4 6 2.32 3.48 -1.16
13 THORNTON BOS 13 0 2 0.00 1.43 -1.43
14 BOULTON ATL 19 2 5 0.98 2.45 -1.47
15 STORTINI EDM 12 0 2 0.00 1.51 -1.51
16 ROY T.B 22 1 4 0.59 2.34 -1.76
17 ORR NYR 23 1 7 0.38 2.66 -2.28
18 BOOGAARD MIN 20 0 3 0.00 2.62 -2.62
19 EAGER PHI 16 0 4 0.00 2.85 -2.85
20 BELAK TOR 8 0 2 0.00 4.43 -4.43

Average



1.04 1.77 -0.73

On average, when these guys are on the ice, only one goal is scored for their team every 60 minutes.

That's bad. Really, really bad.

At least they don't get lit up too badly, other than Belak, but there's a reason for that. Have a look at these strength of competition numbers:


NAME TEAM GP QUALCOMP
1 STORTINI EDM 12 0.01
2 LUCIC BOS 18 0
3 ORR NYR 23 -0.02
4 BOULTON ATL 19 -0.04
5 COTE PHI 16 -0.08
6 BOLL CBJ 21 -0.09
7 THORNTON BOS 13 -0.09
8 MAY ANA 20 -0.11
9 BELAK TOR 8 -0.13
10 PARROS ANA 21 -0.14
11 MCGRATTAN OTT 12 -0.16
12 EAGER PHI 16 -0.16
13 BRASHEAR WSH 22 -0.17
14 ROY T.B 22 -0.17
15 KING STL 15 -0.22
16 FEDORUK MIN 12 -0.23
17 LARAQUE PIT 14 -0.23
18 BOOGAARD MIN 20 -0.26
19 GODARD CGY 19 -0.31
20 KOCI CHI 8 -0.52

In terms of where those stack up with the rest of the league, they're way, way down at the bottom. Guys like Koci basically only play against other Kocis.

The real kicker, however, is in looking at shots on goal. Goals aren't going in either way, which isn't a surprise, but some players generate absolutely nothing in terms of shots while they continue to come the other way, putting their team at an extreme disadvantage.

Someone like the Flyers' Riley Cote, for one, sees only 9.3 shots for per 60 minutes of even strength ice time and 25.6 against. With Brad May on the ice, the Ducks generate 15.3 fewer shots per 60 minutes of play.

And on and on it goes (and look at the Corsi numbers, where only Brashear isn't in the red):

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