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Sizing up the NHL

Following up on a look at the average age of NHL teams, here's a look at the average weight of the 30 teams through the first two weeks of the season:

Team Weight
1 SJS 213.5
2 OTT 212.2
3 TBL 209.1
4 MTL 208.4
5 EDM 207.8
6 LAK 207.6
7 PHX 207.0
8 WSH 206.6
9 ANA 204.6
10 CBJ 204.6
11 CGY 204.4
12 FLA 204.1
13 NYR 203.8
14 MIN 203.6
15 VAN 203.3
16 CHI 202.8
17 NJD 202.5
18 PIT 202.3
19 ATL 201.4
20 COL 201.2
21 TOR 200.8
22 NSH 200.7
23 BUF 200.7
24 STL 200.1
25 PHI 199.9
26 CAR 199.8
27 DAL 199.5
28 NYI 198.5
29 BOS 198.4
30 DET 196.8

San Jose's been a big team and Detroit a small one for a few years now, but there are some surprises in there. Montreal, for instance, ranks far higher than Philadelphia in the size category, at least based on average weight. And young teams like Los Angeles and Phoenix have terrific size as well.

What follows is a look at this data (and the age data) based on breaking it down into forwards and defencemen. First, the blueliners:

Defence
Team Weight RK Age RK
ANA 206.6 17 31.0 3
ATL 200.7 28 28.3 15
BOS 208.0 16 29.1 10
BUF 203.5 25 32.1 1
CAR 209.1 14 29.0 11
CBJ 213.5 4 26.1 29
CGY 211.1 11 28.0 17
CHI 204.3 23 26.3 27
COL 206.2 18 31.5 2
DAL 208.3 15 27.0 21
DET 199.1 30 30.7 4
EDM 212.4 7 29.5 7
FLA 210.4 12 29.2 9
LAK 213.0 5 26.7 23
MIN 205.4 21 28.0 16
MTL 212.3 8 30.1 5
NJD 201.6 27 28.4 14
NSH 202.9 26 26.8 22
NYI 200.0 29 27.8 18
NYR 209.7 13 27.5 20
OTT 218.1 1 29.4 8
PHI 205.6 20 26.2 28
PHX 212.2 9 27.6 19
PIT 211.8 10 28.5 13
SJS 215.0 2 29.6 6
STL 206.1 19 26.4 25
TBL 204.9 22 25.9 30
TOR 203.6 24 26.7 24
VAN 214.3 3 28.9 12
WSH 212.6 6 26.4 26
AVG 208.1 28.3

I hope all of that's pretty straightforward. Essentially, it says that a team like the Sabres has a defence core that is the oldest in the league and is on the small side, 25th in the NHL, at an average of 203.5 pounds.

On the flipside, Columbus has the second-youngest blueline and one that is the fourth biggest at an average of 213.5 pounds.

The oldest bluelines: Buffalo, Colorado, Anaheim, Detroit, Montreal
The youngest: Tampa Bay, Columbus, Philadelphia, Chicago, Washington

The biggest: Ottawa, San Jose, Vancouver, Columbus, Los Angeles
The smallest: Detroit, N.Y. Islanders, Atlanta, New Jersey, Nashville

And here are the averages for forwards:

Forwards
Team Weight RK Age RK
ANA 204.8 9 30.1 2
ATL 201.7 16 28.6 8
BOS 192.9 30 26.4 25
BUF 202.9 11 26.6 23
CAR 195.2 29 28.2 12
CBJ 202.4 14 25.7 28
CGY 202.4 13 29.0 7
CHI 201.4 18 24.0 30
COL 200.2 21 29.1 5
DAL 197.5 27 27.4 16
DET 197.9 25 29.7 4
EDM 210.2 2 26.1 26
FLA 202.9 12 27.6 14
LAK 206.1 7 25.8 27
MIN 203.6 10 26.6 22
MTL 207.6 5 28.6 9
NJD 202.0 15 29.8 3
NSH 200.4 20 28.2 13
NYI 196.7 28 28.5 10
NYR 201.6 17 26.7 21
OTT 208.5 4 29.1 6
PHI 198.6 22 27.2 17
PHX 206.7 6 24.6 29
PIT 198.6 22 26.8 20
SJS 214.6 1 27.6 15
STL 197.7 26 26.5 24
TBL 209.8 3 30.3 1
TOR 200.4 19 26.9 19
VAN 198.4 24 27.0 18
WSH 205.9 8 28.3 11
AVG 202.3 27.6

The oldest forwards: Tampa Bay, Anaheim, New Jersey, Detroit, Colorado
The youngest: Chicago, Phoenix, Columbus, Los Angeles, Edmonton

The biggest: San Jose, Edmonton, Tampa Bay, Ottawa, Montreal
The smallest: Boston, Carolina, N.Y. Islanders, Dallas, St. Louis

Now, I should clarify that this is only among players who have played in at least one game so far this season, so Chris Chelios, for example, isn't being counted on Detroit's blueline. Also, if a player has played one game or six or seven, they're all counted equally in the averaging. Even so, this should give you a good idea of where teams stack up, size and youth wise.

The Bruins, for example, have just three forwards listed over 200 pounds and are just middle of the pack on the blueline despite having 255 pound Zdeno Chara bumping that average way, way up.

The Sharks, meanwhile, are big all over, with only the 195-pound Joe Pavelski under 200 pounds up front, and a pair of 240+ pounders in Doug Murray and Alexei Semenov on the back end.

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Even with Keith Tkachunk and Kyle Wellwood, the Blues and Canucks, respectively, are small up front. How ’bout that?

by J.P. on Oct 27, 2008 6:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Only the extremes are really interesting in this stat-breakdown. It would be a lot more interesting to see how much weight they have on the ice on average (and a LOT more work). Like that you could get a more reasonable view on how tough/old the teams are.

And I can’t wait for Foppa to re-sign so the Avs can be the oldest NHL team!

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by Tommelot on Oct 27, 2008 7:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how that would change for the Caps, with Federov switching back and forth from forward to defense.

by odessasteps on Oct 27, 2008 11:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else creeped out by the fact that the Leafs are 24th in age and size overall and 19th for age and weight for forwards? That’s a little too symmetrical for my liking

"I'll take some Cream Pie" - Barack Obama

"THATS WHAT SHE SAID!"

by MapleLeafs85 on Oct 27, 2008 5:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That is weird. Normally weird things make me check for mistakes, but I’m pretty certain the data’s correct here.

by James Mirtle on Oct 27, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Dandenault being put as a forward or a defensemen for these calculations? I know Brisebois is old, but the Habs do have 3 d-men below the average age on their team, so being 5th oldest seems high. Dandenault would explain that, even though he has played only about 4 periods of D over the past calendar year.

Hockey blogging can't get any flatter.

by saskhab on Oct 28, 2008 10:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope, Dandenault’s down as a forward. Brisebois being close to 38 brings their age up, and guys like Markov aren’t exactly spring chickens.

by James Mirtle on Oct 28, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs


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