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MacTavish unloads on Penner

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If you've yet to hear Oilers coach Craig MacTavish's assessment of Dustin Penner that ran in the Edmonton Journal on Sunday, well, soon it'll be the story of the day. It already is in the Oilers wing of hockey's blogosphere.

A sampling of the coach's words for one of the most well paid third liners in the league:

"When we signed Dustin, we thought he'd be a top two-line player. We thought the contract ($4.25 million average for five years) was a starting point for him, but he views it as a finish line."

"I can't watch it, certainly for another two-and-a-half years."

"You can't throw gratuitous ice-time at a player that inconsistent. It's his competitiveness. He's not competitive enough or fit enough to help us, so why put him back in?"

We've all seen and heard the "tough love" motivational techniques from coaches, but there's certainly a line involved, and MacTavish is crossing it here — big time. For one, Penner has not been nearly bad enough to warrant such a tirade, and even if he had been, he's an untradeable player, someone the Oilers coach is going to have to coax whatever he can out of the next three and a half years given Penner's $4.5-million price tag and meagre production.

What these comments read as, more than anything, are an indictment of the fact this player is even on the roster at that ticket, and that's a troublesome road for any coach to travel down. Lowetide says this is an indication of just where MacTavish stands these days — and it's not all that far from where Denis Savard and Barry Melrose were not too long ago:

This is the third time this season Craig MacTavish has taken verbal shots at his players in public. Each have been reported, and one imagines that they have some impact on the people involved. That's a double edged razor. I think these are the end times for Craig MacTavish as a head coach for the Edmonton Oilers. You can only shit on people for so long, no matter how correct you are in saying it. After awhile, they quit on you and it's impossible to fire the whole team. And it's also impossible to trade Dustin Penner.

Now in his eighth season as Oilers head coach, MacTavish is one of the longest tenured coaches in the league, not far off of Nashville iron man Barry Trotz, and another playoff miss would almost certainly spell the end of his term in Edmonton. Perhaps desperate times call for desperate measures, but it's hard to imagine this motivating anything from anyone in that locker room.

Jonathan Willis has a good look at Penner's pertinent numbers this season, and it's not hard to see where his production's gone. Last season, he finished second overall on the Oilers in total time played on the power play, and this time around he's 11th and averaging about a minute and a half a game. Nearly 50 per cent of Penner's points last season game with the man advantage, and without those minutes, he's essentially a 30-point player.

On a team allowing three goals against a game, he hasn't been a defensive liability and has contributed very little to a penalty kill near the bottom of the league at 74.7 per cent.

And David Staples says Penner's been put in a position to fail given his linemates and opportunities to this point.

The biggest problem with this whole scenario? Penner was, is and will continue to be exactly the same player he was in Anaheim when the Oilers pulled the dump truck up to his lawn and served up a gift of an offer sheet.

He is 26 years old, big and slow, a player with good hands who was a late bloomer who quite conceivably may have hit his peak. Tearing his head off now doesn't change anything.

Except for MacTavish, who's on his way down a slippery slope.

Look out below, Mr. Melrose.

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I agree that these seem to be dark times for MacT. He’s playing all his cards, I guess.

 Funny thing is that, with the Oilers playing like trash, they are still sitting in a good position and if they were to get it together then at this time next week we could be talking about battling for 1st again.

I’m going to say, Penner with a goal and assist against the Wings tonight.

Brett Gee

by Brett Gee on Nov 17, 2008 7:35 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree that MacT’s position with the team isn’t looking so secure (although I doubt they’ll get rid of him mid-season) , but I don’t think you do justice to MacT’s comments here. It’s not quite enough to compare Penner’s numbers this year to his production last year minus the powerplay because they point is that he’s supposed to be getting better. Now, that might be a pipedream, but it’s what they expect. Second, Penner doesn’t look like he puts in the effort every night and his game has always lacked ferocity, and this is what MacT is trying to get out of him. It is so frustrating to watch a 245 pound man never finish a check.

The bottom line is that I don’t think Penner is doing everything he can night in and night out, so MacT is rightly upset.

by OilW30 on Nov 17, 2008 7:55 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1) So who didn’t see this coming? If Penner were ‘all that’ we doubt the Ducks would have allowed him to get away. Perhaps Lowe did his old friend(Burke) a favour afterall?
2) As for McTavish’s comments being over the line; It sounds like he exasperated with Penner. He’s probably already tried the ‘good cop’ approach and is left wit this open tirade as a last attempt to get this apparent slug moving.

by Fauxrumors on Nov 17, 2008 8:12 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So who didn’t see this coming?

I dunno, but it sure seems like I got a lot of backlash when Burke called this contract inflationary. Penner was a great minimum-wage player, and would have been a serviceable $2M player. Lowe brought him to a whole new tax bracket, and put the burden on Penner to become a player that he hadn’t been before.

in retrospect, probably better just to let Burke re-sign Penner and then trade draft picks for him, but I guess the notion of “sticking it to Burke” was too tempting to pass up.

http://battleofcalifornia.blogspot.com/

by Earl Sleek on Nov 17, 2008 9:22 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, I objected to the inflationary comment because pointing the finger at Lowe was disingenuous when it was only a matter of time before it happened, no matter who did it. Beyond that, liked the player, hated the deal a year and a half ago; time has not significantly sweetened my assessment.

by Doogie2K on Nov 17, 2008 4:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I guess offer sheets were inevitable (though I don’t know why breaking a taboo isn’t significant). I guess the irony is that it might not be inflationary at all; this could end up being the move that prevents another GM from throwing money at the next Dustin Penner, whomever that may be.

http://battleofcalifornia.blogspot.com/

by Earl Sleek on Nov 17, 2008 5:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Kesler deal was the first, remember. No one thought he was worth a $1.9m contract back in 2006, so the taboo had been broken.

It is kind of funny to see how much Kesler and Vanek have succeeded since their offer sheets, while Penner has been the exception in this scenario. It’ll also be interesting to see how David Backes works out.

Penner improved so much so quickly that it was definitely a gamble to give him that deal.

Hockey blogging can't get any flatter.

by saskhab on Nov 17, 2008 5:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but I still think there’s a world of difference between a $1.9 m deal and a $4.25 m deal (plus what was Kesler’s offer, 2 years?). They are both offer sheets, sure, but they certainly represent different levels of pay increase. Even after Kesler, we still had room to be shocked by Penner’s offer.

http://battleofcalifornia.blogspot.com/

by Earl Sleek on Nov 17, 2008 6:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is par for the course for MacT and the . The only reason this might be viewed as “over the line” now is because of the ownership and management change that’s occured. With Lowe still peering from above, I don’t know if it’s truly changed or not.

I’ve thought MacT would be fired by other organizations long ago. I won’t believe he’s gone until he actually is.

Hockey blogging can't get any flatter.

by saskhab on Nov 17, 2008 8:53 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yup, par for the course. This team complains about being able to attract free agents…I wonder why. I’m sure Tambellini is thrilled with MacT right now.

by Bosc Ulrich on Nov 17, 2008 9:08 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unload?

I would not call this unloading. The guy for his size has been floating. If he ain’t scoring he should be hitting or doing something. I have only seen one game where he seemed to be engaged. He had a few hits.
Penner need to play somewhere his size. If he is a pacifist then Lowe made a mistake, but what he played like in Anaheim is what the Oilers were expecting. He has not shown anywhere the the same style.
Penner is the new Jimmy Carson

by swabbubba on Nov 17, 2008 10:53 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He got muscled off the puck pretty easily by Alex F. Steen, for Christ’s sake. That should be the other way around, eleven times out of ten.

Of course, as noted elsewhere, he hasn’t exactly been put in a position to succeed, but this is not any way to get the coach to do you a favour.

by Doogie2K on Nov 17, 2008 4:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trade Penner for Blake, maybe a new start would do them both good.

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by Chemmy on Nov 17, 2008 12:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Terrible contract signed by a terrible general manager, and MacTavish has to deal with it. Unsurprisingly, he didn’t deal with it very well. Not to say that he’s wrong though. It would be charitable to call Penner “pedestrian” last year, and he’s been downright terrible this year. He’s become a complete waste of roster and cap space.

by Resolute on Nov 17, 2008 12:50 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs


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