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Where NHLers come from: Alaska and California

I've already been through the usual suspects in terms of provinces and states that produce most North American born NHL players, so now it's time for a few of the unorthodox ones.

California's a good place to start:

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Yes, we're talking about a state that has a huge population and these are tiny percentages of the league, but there's no question we've seen more Californian influence lately.

Players born in the state playing in the league either last season or this one: Brooks Orpik, Ryan Hollweg, Brett Sterling, Garrett Stafford, Scott Parker, Gabe Gauthier and Noah Clarke. Rise_of_california_medium

No, not many world beaters there, but given only 22 players in NHL history have been born in California, the fact that seven have been recent is significant. Some, like Sterling, were born and grew up right in Los Angeles.

Consider this, too: The Kings and Golden Seals entered the NHL in 1967-68 and about 18 years later, there was a small spike in the number of Californians in the league. Wayne Gretzky was traded to the Kings in 1988-89 and 2006-07 was exactly 18 years from that famed deal.

In 2010-11, the Sharks will have been around for 18 years, while the Ducks hit that milestone in 2012-13. Both teams have had terrific success recently, too.

Minor hockey has exploded in popularity in California in recent years, and we're likely just now seeing the cusp of what will be a full-scale invasion of elite-level players over the next decade.

There are two Californians on this year's U.S. world junior team, as well as a handful in the national development program.

Which brings us to Alaska:

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Looks like a trend.

Sarah Palin may have put Alaskan hockey on the map in a more mainstream way, but hockey has been that state's sport of choice for years now. The remote region's population has grown from 300,000 in 1970 to about 680,000 today, but the boom in NHL products (as you can see) began with Scott Gomez when he became the first Alaskan in the NHL in 1999-00. (He left home at 16 to play in the BCJHL and then the WHL in Washington State.)

The state also has two NCAA Div. I hockey teams, which is quite remarkable given their population.

There are now five Alaskans in the league, and nine players born in the state have appeared in an NHL game. This year's group includes Gomez, Ty Conklin, Matt Carle, Brandon Dubinsky and Nate Thompson.

Currently, Alaska is ranked 10th among states in terms of producing NHLers, behind Minnesota, Michigan, New York, Massachussetts, Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Pennsylvania and Ohio.

There are also some up and comers on the Under-18 development team, which is impressive in itself given how difficult it would be to scout youngsters up in Anchorage.

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Nice job, James
Consider this, too: The Kings and Golden Seals entered the NHL in 1967-68 and about 18 years later, there was a small spike in the number of Californians in the league. Wayne Gretzky was traded to the Kings in 1988-89 and 2006-07 was exactly 18 years from that famed deal.

Awesome math, there. Fascinating fact.

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by Whale4ever on Dec 18, 2008 7:29 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Oprik listed from Cali

I know he is listed as being born in Cali, but he played most of his youth hockey in Upstate New York and participated in all of the NY State Selection camps for USA Hockey Festivals (even when he was at Thayer).

So yeah he was born in Cali, but he is really from NY.

by the_game on Dec 18, 2008 7:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

It's a wash

Bobby Ryan was born in Cherry Hill, NJ but was raised in Long Beach, CA. He was even a member of the junior LA Kings club.

So yeah, he’s not listed in the stats, but he’s Southern California bred.

by notsofrosty on Dec 19, 2008 4:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s is a two part series detailing the growth of hockey in California.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/10689/california_the_golden_state_of_hockey_part1/

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/10691/california_the_golden_state_of_hockey_part2/

I am repeating myself, but in USA Hockey there are two distinct coaching idealogies, systems versus skills, In part two of the linked articles above reference is made to the skills based approach, from my research most in California embrace skills development.

by cubanpuckstopper on Dec 18, 2008 8:17 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

The WHL has seen a lot of growth, relatively speaking, from not just California, but Arizona as well. I know that over the past couple years, the Calgary Hitmen have had at least three players who were trained in that state.

Pretty obvious, imo, that the effects of the Coyotes, Sharks and Ducks are starting to bear fruit, as the kids who would have discovered those teams 10-15 years ago are starting to hit junior and the pros.

by Resolute on Dec 18, 2008 11:10 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Texas is really coming along, too. If you look at the national development program and the kids there, more and more are coming out of there.

by James Mirtle on Dec 18, 2008 12:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Great post, if you want to follow grassroots hockey in California try this magazine:
http://www.calirubber.com/

And for hockey in Alaska, Anchorage Daily News beat writer Doyle Woody’s blog is a great resource:
http://community.adn.com/?q=adn/hockey

by pj48 on Dec 18, 2008 11:49 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Alaskans on the USA NTDP Team

It is an open secret that a disproportionate number of Alaskan coaches and scouts have been in charge of selecting kids for the USA NTDP the past few years, which is why a disproportionate number of Alaskan kids make the team. There are easily half a dozen Californian 92s that could have made the U-17 team over the Alaskans, based on their performances in last year’s Select camps.

by The Centerfielder on Dec 19, 2008 12:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

These numbers must be in error

…because my Hockey Reactionary Bible distinctly states that southern expansion is a mistake and no one likes hockey in these places :-)

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by Dominik on Dec 21, 2008 1:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs


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