Avery gets six games
And the wheel o' justice says...
The National Hockey League came down hard on Dallas Stars superpest Sean Avery Friday, handing him a six-game suspension for making inappropriate public comments prior to the Stars' game in Calgary on Tuesday.
The move is retroactive to Tuesday's game against the Flames, with four more games to be served.
Six is a bit much given the offence, but there's no question Avery's gotten off sans punishment for an awful lot of nonsense over the years. My guess is he'll be staying out of the limelight for the near future.
"Mr. Avery has expressed remorse for his recent comments and has sought a professional anger management evaluation," NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said in a league-issued statement. "I will require that he follow through with that process as a condition of his returning to the ice and that he complies with any and all recommendations.
"Mr. Avery has been warned repeatedly about his conduct and comments, which have too often been at odds with the manner in which his more than 700 fellow players conduct themselves," Bettman said. "Playing in the National Hockey League is a privilege, requiring a high standard of personal behaviour. Mr. Avery forfeits that privilege for six games."
Avery can return to the lineup Dec. 16. The Dallas Morning News blog has him forfeiting $125,000 salary, although I can't quite get the math to add up on that.
And we all await whatever happens with the Stars, who are likely pursuing a trade at the moment. If his salary wasn't so high, I could see a few teams bite (Tampa Bay comes to mind) but he may be in no man's land for a while.
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Hmmm
Does that include the games he’s already missed?
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by PPP on
Dec 5, 2008 9:47 AM CST
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1) This suspension is as stupid as the comments that apparently caused it! What exactly IS the line that can’t be crossed with regard to player comments about non hockey topics? Wonder why the NHLPA isn’t saying anything about the arbitrariness of it all. He didn’t hurt another PA member. He just made a verbal comment that might have been perceived as vulgar to some. He didn’t use one of George Carlin’s 7 words.
2) Yes, IF Avery had threatened a player or person OR if he said something about the game itself we could maybe understand a fine, but a 6 game suspension? Guys who have caused significant REAL injury to other players have recieved less time!| More idiocy from the NHL. Gary Bettman and Sean Avery deserve each other!.
by Fauxrumors on
Dec 5, 2008 9:54 AM CST
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The line is simple, Faux. It is twofold:
1. One’s comments are such as would cause any reasonable apprehension that they will cause the NHL to lose money through reputational loss; OR
2. One’s comments serve to attack third parties in an injurious manner which could not be calssified as “fair comment”.
It is a judgment call. I find it interesting that so many hockey fans, who love a sport that has judgment calls as its inherent basis, find such a craving for bright lines.
by Gerald on
Dec 5, 2008 10:37 AM CST
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Agree. I could see fining him the maximum and suspending him one game, but six? Sure he said something stupid and all but when you’re giving guys with blatant elbows or hits from behind three games, that’s awfully hard to justify.
by DMG on
Dec 5, 2008 10:42 AM CST
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There seems to be a generational disconnect here. To hear some hockey insiders and traditional media personalities talk about the incident you’d think Avery shot someone.
The call by some hockey insiders for Avery to be buried in the minors and never allowed back into the league stands in stark contrast to the opinion that he never should have been suspended in the first place.
And it seems (though I have no proof) that the spectrum of punishment tracks to some degree with age – hockey insiders/old boys network calling for the worst followed by mainstream media with bloggers generally at the other end of the spectrum.
This isn’t the only indecent in recent memory where the traditional hockey media has clashed with new media, and skirmishes only seem to be getting more frequent.
Is this the hockey traditionalists’ last stand against what they perceive as a perversion of their grand old game? Based on their reaction I’m guessing they recognize they’re losing their grip.
Strange days indeed.
by GOOLIAN on
Dec 5, 2008 10:33 AM CST
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“The alleged sexual assault took place after Quinn had dined at a Mall of America restaurant with former Penguins teammates Mario Lemieux, Rick Tocchet and Bob Errey on the night before a game against Pittsburgh. Police said the four men went to Hooters after their dinner, where they met four women. The four players and four women then went back to the Penguins players’ hotel, where Quinn was accused of raping the 19-year-old in another player’s hotel room.”
That’s the image I have of NHL players off the ice. A friend of mine hung out with some of the Oilers about five years ago, and they certainly confirmed it. The problem I have with the Avery suspension is that the NHL certainly isn’t doing anything to actually change the “banging strippers two at a time” behavior…
by Hawerchuk on
Dec 5, 2008 11:17 AM CST
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I don’t understand what this has to do with the Avery suspension. I imagine if an NHL player were charged with rape they would be suspended pending the outcome of the trial.
by GOOLIAN on
Dec 5, 2008 11:36 AM CST
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Agreed. Let’s try and stay on topic.
by James Mirtle on
Dec 5, 2008 11:43 AM CST
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Well, hold on. Quinn wasn’t suspended by the NHL (Minnesota gave him a leave of absence, then released him later for “violating curfew”.) I just think it’s disingenuous for the NHL to get this excited about speech but not about actions that degrade women and embarrass the league. Quinn was just one of many. What did Lilja, Tallinder and Huselius do in Sweden? Kevin Stevens? Nedved? etc…
by Hawerchuk on
Dec 5, 2008 12:07 PM CST
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It’s not so much Avery’s words that are the issue as so much that he purposely gathered media around him to make sure they recorded him saying it.
by Nael M. on
Dec 5, 2008 12:14 PM CST
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I would rather that the league told us this, rather than have different fans speculate on what was the real suspension trigger.
http://battleofcalifornia.blogspot.com/
by Earl Sleek on
Dec 5, 2008 12:16 PM CST
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Bettman just said on the radio here that Avery had been warned for numerous other incidents this season. Anyone who thinks there was just the one issue is off-base.
by James Mirtle on
Dec 5, 2008 12:20 PM CST
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When can we, as NHL fans
suspend Gary Bettman?
by poploser on
Dec 5, 2008 11:51 AM CST
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Bettman answers to the Board of Governors, not us fans.
by Nael M. on
Dec 5, 2008 1:07 PM CST
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you completely missed the rhetorical-ness of my comment. nice work.
by poploser on
Dec 5, 2008 3:00 PM CST
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Media hypocrites
If I were Paul Kelley, I’d instruct every player not to talk to the media.
Without some definition of where the line is – or at least until some greasy lawyer defines it – how are players to know what will or won’t get them suspended?
Either the PA is an advocate for its workers – including the unsavory ones such as Avery – or it’s part of the NHL head office circle jerk as it was in the Alan Eagleson era.
To his credit, Glenn Healy walked out of the hearing on Thursday and chose his words very carefully when prompted by the media to pile on.
Maybe the PA talked the NHL out of a lengthier suspension. It would be nice to hear its side of the story.
Until then, the players should go all “Glenn Anderson” every time a red light flashes or a microphone gets stuck in their grills.
by Dr Van Nostrum on
Dec 5, 2008 2:19 PM CST
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How many players have ever run into an issue for something they’ve said to the press? Avery and who else?
It seems safe to say that if you don’t slag the opposition’s family/friends publicly, you might be all right.
by James Mirtle on
Dec 5, 2008 3:03 PM CST
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There’s no definition of what’s okay and what’s not. Lots of players have said and done unsavory things, many times in the full glare of the media. I know this point has been made, but Avery didn’t even say any names.
The media/NHL appears to have taken a stand because (1) they can’t stand him and (2) he’s an easy target because no one else can stand him either. Unfortunately 1 and 2 are totally irrelevant.
Just because Avery is a prick doesn’t mean it’s okay to treat him different.
by GOOLIAN on
Dec 5, 2008 3:42 PM CST
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Bettman just said on the radio here that Avery had been warned for numerous other incidents this season. Anyone who thinks there was just the one issue is off-base.
by James Mirtle on
Dec 5, 2008 4:17 PM CST
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No offense, James, but I don’t trust Gary Bettman’s account of things one bit. Besides, if Avery’s comments can be construed in so many ways, I’m pretty sure the words “warnings” and “numerous” probably have different meanings for Bettman and Avery, too.
http://battleofcalifornia.blogspot.com/
by Earl Sleek on
Dec 5, 2008 4:51 PM CST
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What’s particularly interesting to me is the cultural divide between traditional and newer NHL fans that seems to be emerging that (in my opinion) reflects a similar divide between Avery (and players like him) and the traditional NHL player.
Everyone in the league has been trained for years prior to making it as to what it means to be a hockey player according to the commonly accepted definitions shared by a conservative hockey establishment that does almost all of the teaching and, when your reach a high enough level, values reflected in the commentary of a conservative traditional media.
All about team. No individual displays of any kind. Etc.
Clearly Avery and others like him don’t fit into this mold. You’d have to be an exceptional talent to make it very far while the system you’re in attempts to force you into compliance every step of the way. It’s surprising that Avery has lasted as long as he has and not at all surprising that there are almost no players like him in the league.
Rejected by the establishment and accompanying traditional media, rejected by management, rejected by the majority of his peers who have a different understanding of what it is to be a hockey player.
Now that there are new media outlets available that don’t necessarily share the same view of hockey and hockey players Avery has found somewhat of a following. There seems to be a lot more dissent about this incident than there would have been even five years ago. At the very least there’s a forum available for those who disagree.
It would certainly go a long way to explaining this mess. If I was a betting man I’d say the league won’t be able to stamp this kind of thing out and will eventually be forced to change.
by GOOLIAN on
Dec 5, 2008 4:39 PM CST
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Wow, are you ever off base in misreading the public’s reaction.
This is not about what it means to be a hockey player, nor is it in the least bit “conservative” (whatever that may mean to you).
The reaciton is based on what most civilized people are raised to be. You don’t go around talking to people in that way. For any reason. And you NEVER talk about women in that fashion, much less women whom you have dated and shared intimate moments.
I have no idea whether you were brought up to believe that this kind of talk was countenanced. I sure wasn’t, and before you think I was brought up conservatively, I was not. I never went to church, I can swear with the best of them, and I love off-colour humour. My parents just brought me up to respect women, and not to disparage people in this fashion.
This is not an age gap, either.
Where in the hell are you people coming from?
by Gerald on
Dec 5, 2008 9:54 PM CST
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The way I was raised has nothing to do with it. It was an observation about the culture of hockey and the changing culture we live in.
I certainly didn’t mean to generalize about “newer NHL fans” and should have been clearer on that point.
If you disagree with my observation I’m absolutely open to discussion.
by GOOLIAN on
Dec 5, 2008 10:42 PM CST
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Justice Served
Avery is a disgrace to the game of hockey. Constantly makes the headlines for all the wrong reasons, and needs help as a human being. This is just the beginning of the suspensions he will receive in the future, and he is a guaranteed fight in every game and practice he participates him. Yes, hes great at doing what he does, agitating his opponents, but now he agitates his own teammates just as much and thats unacceptable.
by Pete1020 on
Dec 5, 2008 9:04 PM CST
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