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Put Cherry in the Hall

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It is time to elect Don Cherry into the Hockey Hall of Fame.

There is not a man on the planet who has kept more fans or made more fans for the sport of hockey than Grapes. For nearly 30 years he has kept the attention of Canadian hockey fans (and now fans worldwide) on the sport that he and they love far more than any other.

And I’m not talking about the media wing … I am talking about full fledged induction in the builders’ category.

— Mike Milbury, CBC Sports

I find people are always shocked to learn Cherry isn't in the Hall of Fame. It makes no sense given he is, next to probably only Gretzky and a few current stars like Ovechkin and Crosby, the face of hockey in North America.

There are literally dozens and dozens of former players and builders in the HHOF that the majority of hockey fans couldn't pick out of a lineup.

Hopefully this happens in the near future, as Grapes is getting up there. He turns 75 next month and deserves the honour when the committee votes this June.

 

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As media? Yes.

As a builder? No. What has he really done other than coach for a few years? Being owner of the IceDogs is hardly much of a contribution to hockey.

by PRC on Jan 16, 2009 1:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I’m not Canadian, and never watched HNiC as a kid, but I definitely could’ve told you who Don Cherry was when I was like 8.

by annieb on Jan 16, 2009 1:01 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Cherry

I say for media not builder.
Next thing you Roenick will be in for a builder. As there is no way Roenick
is making it in as a player.

Leafs selling hope to the hopeless since 1967

by Toe Blake Hockey on Jan 16, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Being selected as a media honouree is a much, much different thing. Still a great honour, but media inductees are not part of the wall and are not honoured alongside players, builders and the like.

I’d put Cherry on the wall. Yes, he’s controversial, but he has become an incredibly influential part of the game in this country.

by James Mirtle on Jan 16, 2009 1:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm for it for two reasons:

1. He deserves it for all the work he’s done to promote the game.

2. Aren’t y’all just dying to see what jacket he’d wear????

by Danno11 on Jan 17, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

1) This begs the question what does the term ‘builder’ imply here? Had the impression it was an honor for GM’s/owners, etc who directly contributed to the building of a sucessful team.
2) What Cherry has ‘built’ is a very entertaining persona. Sure its fun to watch and he probably gets great ratings, but isn’t this what the broadcastes wing was built for??

by Fauxrumors on Jan 16, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Here’s the list of builders. There are other broadcasters on it.

by James Mirtle on Jan 16, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

hard to argue after seeing that list

Hyphens cause writers more trouble than any other form of punctuation, except perhaps commas.

by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jan 16, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely

After examining the builders list, Cherry is just as deserving as say Harold Ballard etc…

by Exit716 on Jan 16, 2009 1:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Has he had a powerful influence on hockey?

Definitely. A good influence? No. But that doesn’t matter much to the list of builders already in there. It’s a long list of both people who have built the game and people the game has survived in spite of.

If I were starting the list from scratch, I’d strongly resist putting Cherry in as anything other than a broadcaster. But given how it stands right now, it’s impossible to deny that he deserves it.

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Jan 16, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No different

…than putting John Madden in the football HOF.

His contribution to hockey as a coach and a broadcaster (and thankfully not fashion sense) has transcended the game.

by Afino on Jan 16, 2009 1:49 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

And just so I'm more clear

That makes him a builder.

by Afino on Jan 16, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So you really want xenophobic morons in the HOF?

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. George Carlin

by GregJP on Jan 16, 2009 6:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hey, that didn’t stop the Baseball Hall of Fame from electing Ty Cobb (a racist) into their Hall of Fame.

The mentality is what these persons did for the sport that matters, not what their personal beliefs are/were.

Bay Area born and bred.

by Nael M. on Jan 16, 2009 6:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Besides...

as folks have pointed out, Harold Ballard’s in the Hall and he was just as anti-European as Cherry is.

Bay Area born and bred.

by Nael M. on Jan 16, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate Cherry

…but you can’t ignore the fact that he is a hockey icon and one of the most influential figures in hockey for several decades. Whether he goes in as a builder or media isn’t that relevant. Let the induction committee decide.

by Pseudonym on Jan 16, 2009 6:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he definitely has the status and the influence (both positive and negative) to be in. He’s been so important for so long. And this comes from someone who thinks he’s a despicable racist buffoon who has an extremely outdated view of what constitutes a decent man, very rarely has anything intelligent to say and is a very annoying speaker to boot.

by Malurous on Jan 16, 2009 7:57 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Putting a “controversial” figure like Grapes in would also probably get the sport some attention on shows like PTI, where hockey is rarely discussed unless there’s a fight or something asinine like Sean Avery.

by odessasteps on Jan 16, 2009 8:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

In

At least three convicted felons on that builders list and a few more disreputable characters. Several more who never won a Stanley Cup, nor coached a team to the Finals for that matter. And zero with the profile of Cherry.
And at least one Soviet.
I mean, it’s our hockey hall of fame.

by Dr Van Nostrum on Jan 16, 2009 9:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Who is “our”?

by Gerald on Jan 17, 2009 8:08 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, it’s our hockey hall of fame.

I think this was actually meant as subtle parody.

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Jan 17, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

An objective take on Cherry's true achievements.

In a discussion on Cherry yesterday, I asked someone to list all of Don’s achievement in hockey to assess his Hall Pf Fame merits. This poster, named krob, supplied on long impressive list, and I objectively critiqued each point. His listings are the hyphenated quotes; my thoughts follow. I think the following lays it all out quite fairly.

-“He has brought the game into households that otherwise wouldn’t have watched it.”

I don’t know about this. I tune in to watch HNIC. Some people do tune in for Cherry. I do know a guy that used to tune in just for Coaches Corner. He wouldn’t be alone. I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s made HNIC prosper, but he’s a big part of it’s entertainment value. But they made him, and not vice versa.

-“He always advocates respect on the ice.”

100% true, and in his forum he should absolutely do that. He does an excellent job at it too!

-“He praises and thanks the grass roots of Canadian hockey at every opportunity (the several hundred thousand volunteers).”

I was one of those volunteers for 11 years. Cherry is a great booster of all levels of hockey. He’s brought great recognition and acknowledgement to those selfless folks who put in all kinds of time into this facet of our social fabric. Just don’t confuse Canadian Minor Hockey thriving because of Don Cherry, though. It’s a success because of the individuals involved. That said, his promotion of it likely has helped flow a good bit of Government money into keeping it healthy.

-“He brings a personality that has been marketable enough to make him known even south of the border and his contribution to the income of the game is something that is a benefit to every player and employee of the league.”

Don isn’t seen south of the border the same way he is perceived up here. I’m sure his contribution has brought some income into the NHL, but I doubt that it is in a big way that would make a significant difference. His marketable personality has benefitted himself though.

-“He teaches the basics of the game and is always quick to point out the things a player should never do (shoot wide on an odd man rush, block shots improperly, screen your own goalie, play the body not the puck, take away time and space, stand your ground or lose it forever,etc).”

True, not to sound condescending, but he’d make an ideal minor hockey coach with what he preaches, and how he gets it across.

- “He teaches the importance and relevance of being a teammate not just a member of a team.”

Don’s always been “All for one and one for all.” There is no other way to be in a team sport.

-“He teaches honour, loyalty, respect to those who paved the way for you, he teaches to never forget your roots and where you came from.”

Absolutely. Those are always good manners and traits to pass along.

-“Here is one some of you harping about compassion will hate to swallow…for all of his toughness he is brought to tears nearly every week for a soldier, or minor hockey player,etc he doesn’t even know….a real animal and neandrathal that Cherry is…how many hockey men cry on national tv and then have the balls to get right back up there and preach tough hockey.”

That is very true. I’ve seen it more than once. He’s never been an animal and he’s old school perhaps, but hardly neanderthal. His compassion could be extended to some other areas, but I digress.

-“Is there a bigger supporter of Canadian hockey alive…..would the world juniors and national teams be fawned over as they are without Don backing them for so long? Think about it…were they before Don?”

There isn’t a more popular supporter of the Canadian Juniors than Cherry, but before he came onto coaches corner, the program Hockey Canada runs as it is now, didn’t exist in the same form. It has grown exponentially because it is expertly run. Because it is run so well it has become successful and Canada has regularly won gold medals. Because Canada has become a perennial winner, it is televised and covered in great detail. Sorry, but all of this happened without much more than a thumbs up from Cherry as far as I can tell.

-“How many of you remember sitting around listening to Don with your parents or friends to a memorable episode of Coaches Corner.”

Of course, but that’s entertainment.

-“Don also teaches humility as he always the first to admit that his players and especially Bobby Orr are a main reason he is where he is today.”

Yes he teaches humilty, but he’s hardly in a medium where he can practice it consistently.

-“Don helps promote the Prospects game every year along with Bobby Orr to give the game more credibility and star power (you know those kids listen to every word he says).”

Yes, he does help promote it, but again, it would all run fine and dandy without him. I watch it to see the kids, personally.

-“Don teaches persistence and tells kids to never give up and stop listening to people who tell you you can’t …..he preaches for parents and coaches to never give up on kids.”
And that’s the right thing to do.

-“Don preaches the benefits of hard work and the importance of always giving your all and putting the sweater before the player.”

As it should be.

-“Don tells parents to stop meddling with coaches and push their kids too hard and always emphasizes the importance of fun in the game…even at the professional level….he is always quick to show clips illustrating comeraderie and sportsmanship.”

And those aren’t negligable points. As a hockey, that’s advice I need once in a while too.

I’ll toss one in of my own. Cherry has created a pretty cool chain of restaurants in his name, that has given employment to thousands of Canadians, my niece included.

by Robert L on Jan 17, 2009 5:11 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

None of those things are “achievements”, other than his restaurants.

by Gerald on Jan 17, 2009 9:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bingo!

You nailed it, Gerry! He’d be the first cheerleader elected to the Hall.

by Robert L on Jan 19, 2009 7:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s a success because of the individuals involved. That said, his promotion of it likely has helped flow a good bit of Government money into keeping it healthy.

His promotion may have also inspired a few volunteers to help.

by Doogie2K on Jan 19, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs


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