Handicapping the Vezina race
Coming out of the all-star break, I think the Bruins' Tim Thomas is leading the Vezina race.
But it's close.
No netminder has won the Vezina with a save percentage lower than .914 since Jim Carey in 1996 and no netminder has won while playing fewer than 60 games (lockout year excepted) since Dominik Hasek in 1994. The average stats of the past 15 top goaltender winners are a record of 37-22-10, a 2.14 goals-against average and .922 save percentage.
The biggest threat to Thomas winning is the fact he's played in a tandem, but he's got a lot of company in not having played many games. There's a real possibility a netminder with fewer than 60 games under his belt wins the award this season.
Here's a look at the nine netminders with save percentages at .914 or higher and who are on pace to start 45+ games this season:
| Name | Team | GP | GS | W | L | OTL | GAA | SV% | SO | |
| 1 | Tim Thomas | BOS | 30 | 30 | 21 | 5 | 4 | 2.09 | 0.934 | 3 |
| 2 | Niklas Backstrom | MIN | 40 | 40 | 23 | 15 | 2 | 2.19 | 0.927 | 5 |
| 3 | Steve Mason | COB | 31 | 31 | 18 | 11 | 2 | 2.04 | 0.926 | 6 |
| 4 | Scott Clemmensen | NJD | 31 | 30 | 20 | 9 | 1 | 2.25 | 0.923 | 0 |
| 5 | Mike Smith | TAM | 39 | 38 | 14 | 16 | 9 | 2.52 | 0.919 | 2 |
| 6 | Ryan Miller | BUF | 40 | 39 | 23 | 12 | 4 | 2.53 | 0.917 | 3 |
| 7 | Tomas Vokoun | FLA | 33 | 29 | 13 | 13 | 3 | 2.66 | 0.917 | 3 |
| 8 | Carey Price | MON | 28 | 26 | 16 | 6 | 5 | 2.44 | 0.915 | 1 |
| 9 | Henrik Lundqvist | NYR | 40 | 40 | 24 | 13 | 3 | 2.53 | 0.914 | 2 |
With both Brodeur and Luongo hurt, it's opened the door for a lot of unusual suspects here. In general, netminders are really rewarded for playing a ton of games, and only Backstrom, Smith, Miller and Lundqvist fit the bill here.
Clemmensen seems like a non-starter given he'll lose his role as soon as Brodeur returns, and Smith will not receive much support given how low his win totals are. Ditto for Vokoun.
In a lot of ways, this is currently a six-horse race, and Mason will be one of the favourites should he continue his strong play down the stretch and get Columbus into the postseason. He's slowed down recently after being so heavily relied on, and the Blue Jackets have a lot of back-to-back games remaining.
Thomas is my pick, followed by Backstrom and Mason. But predicting which way the GMs' vote might go is going to be pretty difficult unless someone separates themselves from the pack.
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I’d give the slight nod to Backstrom, because I also think that goalies who start more should get credit for that, even if their numbers are slightly worse.
It is now officially habitual for Lundqvist to have a slump in December. Let’s hope that his play from here on out echoes what he did in the last two seasons.
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by self loather on Jan 28, 2009 1:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gotta be Thim Thomas.
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by J.P. on Jan 28, 2009 2:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So far it’s Tim Thomas. Barring any form of catastrophe, or another goalie going on an incredible hot streak, I can’t see Thomas not winning it.
by Habs on Jan 28, 2009 2:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What if Roberto heats up in the second half like he was during the start of the season? If he plays out of his mind for 60% of the season does that beat Thomas playing very well but in tandem?
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by Blackcapricorn on Jan 28, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure he’ll be able to get in enough starts/wins, but maybe.
by James Mirtle on Jan 28, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d say the biggest threat to Thomas isn’t him splitting time with Fernandez, but rather the fact that he is unbelievably streaking. I’m still somewhat doubtful that Thomas can keep this up. Don’t be surprised if Manny Fernandez is the B’s go to guy in the playoffs.
by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Jan 28, 2009 3:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that, too. The B’s in general could be in for a bit of a fall in terms of save percentage, etc., because what they’ve done so far can’t be sustainable.
by James Mirtle on Jan 28, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Again, though, no goalie’s won the Vezina with as few starts as Thomas is getting in a long, long time. That’s a threat, too. Voters like a high win total.
by James Mirtle on Jan 28, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if I agree with Thomas being inconsistent. If you look at his stats all the way back to his college days, they’ve been pretty good. Now that he’s finally playing behind a very good team his numbers are reflecting that. I definitely think he has the capability to continue to play the way he has been all season.
by canuckanese on Jan 28, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Smith
Who’s the guy on that list who is performing beyond what you might call the defensive capabilities of the team in front of him?
That would be Mike Smith. Stellar average and Sv% on a team that spent Q1 in disarray. W-L for goalies is, to be blunt, the single most-ret@rded stat in hockey and – as long as we’re talking about creating better stats as we were in a recent post – should be tossed into the trash heap.
Most of those other guys are playing behind systems. Not that they aren’t any good, just that they’re benefiting to a greater degree from playing on teams that have professional coaches. With apologies to Rick Tocchet’s family.
by Dr Van Nostrum on Jan 28, 2009 3:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t agree more. Especially when you consider the rotating cast of, um, “defensemen” that he’s played behind. When I first read these numbers I had to re-read his three times because I figured there was an error somewhere.
That being said, Thomas shouldn’t be penalized for the fact that a bunch of yahoos run the Lightning.
by cferneyh on Jan 28, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Smith deserves some consideration, no question, but I don’t know that you can lean that heavily on save percentage. Goalies who face a ton of shots naturally have better numbers there.
by James Mirtle on Jan 28, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thomas definitely
As a Habs fan I hope he wins. That means it will cost the Bruins a ton more to sign him.
by Exit716 on Jan 28, 2009 5:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I just wanted to say...
I have both Backstrom and Thomas on my fantasy team. Am I a genius or what?
by chileiceman on Jan 29, 2009 2:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I drafted Gerber instead of Thomas. Woo?
by James Mirtle on Jan 29, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
1) Before his injury, Thomas’ team mate Manny Fernandez was having quite a season as well. If he didn’t get hurt Tim’s games played would be even lower
2) We wouldn’t dismiss Scott Clemmenson out of hand. If Marty had the same numbers we would be touting this as yet another Vezina calibre season in NJ. Playing behind the same team as Brodeur (ostensibly a weaker team than Thomas has in Boston), shouldn’t Scott be given his due?
by Fauxrumors on Jan 29, 2009 6:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Clemmensen is a career backup and it will take more than one very good season for him to get Vezina consideration. In fact, you could even say that because he plays for the Devils he’s less likely to be considered, because everyone knows he’s really a backup to Brodeur and that’s it.
Even though his numbers are stellar…
by Habs on Jan 29, 2009 8:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
1) Habs: Are you saying that the award, which is supposed to be given based upon THIS Year’s stats is influenced by what a plyer has done in the Past?
2) We’re not advocating that Scott be given the trophy just yet, but as of NOW, he should be in the top 5 considered for the award.
by Fauxrumors on Jan 29, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to know who’s going to win, and Clemmensen doesn’t have a hope. Does anyone think that when Brodeur comes back that he won’t be the No. 1?
by James Mirtle on Jan 29, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
1) Its unlikely that the Devils will over work Marty once he returns, so its possible that by the time the season ends Clemmensen will have played as many games as the favourite, Tim Thomas.
by Fauxrumors on Jan 29, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s also possible Clemmensen’s numbers dive by then. He’s struggled a bit lately.
by James Mirtle on Jan 29, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would just like to thank the King for making me look extra smart last night in Pittsburgh. (6 goals on 33 shots.) On a few of those goals, I think he was too busy wondering whether he should get highlights for his next Vanity Fair shoot to pay attention to the puck.
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by self loather on Jan 29, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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