Leafs roster gets a mini-makeover
I'm on Leafs duty today so things will be quiet here. Follow me at Globe Sports and on Twitter for updates on all things Toronto heading into tonight's game.
In short, Vesa Toskala's out (for who knows how long), Joey MacDonald is starting against Colorado, Tyler Bozak and James Reimer were recalled and Viktor Stalberg is back from a mild concussion. Oh, and Niklas Hagman and Matt Stajan are benched.
Things are pretty ugly already here... and they'll get a whole lot more so if they can't beat the Avs.
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Playoffs!!!1
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by eyebleaf on Oct 13, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
I had to rec
Because of the unshakeable Tigger-like optimism. Shows admirable resilience. :)
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by Baroque on Oct 13, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
14th looking good right now...
…Wild not so much. Still basking in the glow of a 5-0 comeback last night it really was one for the ages. LET’S GO HAWKS!!!
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by hawks61 on Oct 13, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How was that Ron Wilson meltdown yesterday, James?
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m a Victoria boy and a Salsa/Grizzlies fan since I moved here, so I’ve been a lot of Tyler Bozak over the years. A pretty good scorer and team captain in his last season. Cocky as all hell. Semi-slick moves but not that quick either on his feet or with his hands. No defense to speak of. A soft touch on the puck but that’s it. Basically, Rob Schremp except not as good.
How this kid’s in the NHL I really have no idea.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 13, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess you’re smarter than the 20-25 NHL GMs who were falling all over themselves to sign the ‘next Rob Schremp’ last year.
by Godd Till on Oct 13, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you saw him before he played three years in the NCAA? That’s timely and important scouting.
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by Chemmy on Oct 13, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, especially when you consider that we’re talking about a late-bloomer before the blooming part.
by Malurous on Oct 13, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off, Bozak was at Denver for two years, not three.
Second, while I do not pretend on expertise on his NCAA career, I merely expressed surprise, based on what I saw at the time, that he had made it. From my experience late bloomers usually show some signs of blooming before spring comes, if you follow me.
by Benjamin Massey on Oct 13, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did see much of Bozak’s NCAA career, and, as a Gopher fan, I am very, very happy to have seen the last of him. The kid was a monster against us. The stats don’t tell the full story, even though he had at least one goal in every career game against Minnesota. That mother****** was everywhere; I think he stole all the pucks off our team bus.
Granted, it’s really only one and a half years at Denver, since he had a serious knee injury during his freshman year. That doesn’t seem to have cost him any speed, though. Sure, it’s going to take him some time to adjust his game to the NHL, and there’s no such thing as a sure thng. I like his chances to be a very good NHL player, though. The Tyler Bozak I watched bore no resemblance to the one you describe.
by J. Michael Neal on Oct 14, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bozak was more than a point per game player with the Salsa in 05-06 before putting up a 2.15 point per game season with the Grizzlies. Yeah, sure sounds like a dud back then.
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by Chemmy on Oct 14, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rob Schremp scored mucho points in the OHL, too, and he’s barely keeping his head above water with the Islanders, FFS. Sometimes, a player’s about more than his stats. That Bozak turned out may just be due to the fact that he learned better habits between his time in Victoria and his time in Denver. No need to get your thong in a knot.
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by Doogie2K on Oct 14, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
When some guy that saw him play 3/4 years ago professes to know better than a guy that saw a lot of his NCAA career and some guys that watched him all pre-season and in rookie camp it’s a bit of a pain to have to read.
He’s light years ahead of Schremp in skating ability.
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by PPP on Oct 14, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying Bozak = Schremp. I’m saying, I can see why Ben might be surprised, if he “saw him bad” despite his stats several years ago. Surely, I think we’ve all see one young guy play that we thought was the best/worst thing ever, numbers be damned.
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by Doogie2K on Oct 14, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's it sit you top 2 scorers
that’s exactly what a 0-4-1 team needs to get back on track and oh…put in the 3rd string netminder for he is the next monster right? Benching Hagman and Stajan makes no sense whatsoever with other guys like Komosarek and Blake performing worse. Granted “Larry” Hagman is off to the worst start of his young career but c’mon he is not deserving of a benching, not by a long-shot and neither is Stajan who is, by the way, the Leafs leading goal-scorer. As far as I’m concerned they are expecting too much from Stajan who really is a 2nd- to-3rd line centre but are expecting 1st line results which is unrealistic, just like the team’s expectations heading into this season. Face it there is not going to be any playoffs this year in Toronto for they would have to play 15 games over .500 which is not possible with this line-up eventhough there is still 77 games still left to play.
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by hawks61 on Oct 13, 2009 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And that is really funny on one hand but really annoying on the other cause the bruins might find themselves with a really high draft pick.
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by Sid the captain on Oct 13, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whom they’ll have traded away for a rent-a-scorer at the deadline.
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by holiday park on Oct 13, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Leafs are in a lottery position at that point it should be an obvious choice not to trade that pick.
by Malurous on Oct 13, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’ll just trade their own.
Having said that, the Leafs won’t in the lottery.
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by PPP on Oct 13, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on both counts. Of the first I’m sure, as the way the Bruins are built now pretty much assumes a high-profile acquisition when it’s easier on the cap.
But that doesn’t mean trading away that kind of a pick in the off chance that it would materialize.
by Malurous on Oct 13, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re gonna troll every Leafs item here, hawks61, could you try at least being entertaining? Failing that, write in sentences that aren’t as painful to read as watching Toskala play goal.
by Godd Till on Oct 13, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Stajan’s got 3PP goals because he’s been invisible at evens.
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by PPP on Oct 13, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re simplifying it calling MacDonald just a “3rd string netminder”. He’s not your typical AHL veteran, he was essentially a starter last year in the NHL and held his own.
by Malurous on Oct 13, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they should have started an injured goalie instead
although I’m sure Ron Wilson has a special phone number he gives to fans in other cities so that they can tell him which of his players most deserve benching.
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by Back In Black on Oct 13, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont’ worry. The Avs have historically made backup goalies look All-World.
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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 13, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"should the Leafs' be contracted?"
/pushes up broken glasses
“Voting yes, 100 times. God I’m smart.”
The team’s had a .838 sv% so far this year. Toskala’s mark is .812. Think that NHL calibre goaltending might help things improve?
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by PPP on Oct 13, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That would help a LOT. but they still would not make the playoffs unless some players actually started living up to their contract. (cough blake cough)
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by Sid the captain on Oct 13, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we’re all under-estimating the impact that real goaltending could have on the Leafs. You can trace a lot of the other problems to the players’ being terrified that any small mistake will end up in the net.
As a comparison, swap Toskala and Lundvist’s sv% and Toskalol would only have allowed 8 goals in 4 games.
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by PPP on Oct 13, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but I don’t see it happening with the current coaching setup. Here’s why
Quotes of Steve Simmons, Toronto Sun
Toskala hadn’t even finished his first game of the regular season before the questions were asked. And he didn’t get to finish his second start that only turned up the heat, which bothered coach Ron Wilson, who only likes it when he turns up the heat.
Wilson, at least, has a history with Toskala that extends beyond the borders of Mississauga. This is the sixth season he has coached the goalie. Most of that time, Toskala was a backup to Evgeny Nabokov in San Jose.
Quotes of Drew Remenda about Warren Strelow
He gains his goalies’ trust because he goes to bat for them. Remenda uses the phrase goalie advocate to describe how Strelow will work as buffer, conduit and intermediary with the rest of the coaching staff.
“He’ll go to the coaches on behalf of the goalie,” said Remenda. “When Darryl Sutter was here, he would tell the goalies, ’You’ll hear one voice and it’s not going to be me.’ If you have a problem, talk with Warren. If you have a problem with me, talk to Warren. He left it all up to Warren. Now with Ron Wilson, it works differently and Warren is still trying to work that out.”
Unless a head coach has experience in the net, it’s somewhat difficult to relate to goaltenders.
Quotes of Clint Malarchuk about Warren Strelow
“He’s very honest with you,” Malarchuk says. "A lot of head coaches, unless you’ve been a goaltender and you’ve been in those situations, you don’t really know the game as far as goaltending is concerned as well as you know the rest of the game. It’s always [let the] goalies on their own or let the goalie coach deal with them. A lot of times [coaches] can get down on a goalie without understanding that maybe it wasn’t the goalie’s fault The thing that Warren would do is protect you somewhat. If the coach is saying, "Well, that’s a bad goal.’ Warren is able to say, ‘Well, hang on a second here. Look at the situation. There’s a screen here or a deflection or whatever. So a goalie coach such as Warren can keep things in perspective, do damage control where a coach might get down on a goaltender.
Do I expect a second coming of Warren Strelow? No, but the further Toskala becomes removed from that steadying apporach to goaltenders, the more he will suffer. Perhaps only Nolan Schaefer has suffered more since the passing of Strelow.
sources http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/steve_simmons/2009/10/09/11351981-sun.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCM/is_4_32/ai_112904377/pg_2/?tag=content;col1
by cubanpuckstopper on Oct 14, 2009 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Toskala is clearly suffering from the loss of his goaltending coach but when I suggest that the goaltending will get better it’s not because Toskala is going to get better it’s because he’s going to be gone.
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by PPP on Oct 14, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes but lundvist have the same sv% in Toronto?
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by Sid the captain on Oct 13, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Sid the captain on Oct 13, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right, ‘cause the Ranger’s defense is so stellar, right?
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by Karina on Oct 13, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This. Lundqvist’s been awesome. And of course everyone knows that he’s all-star caliber. Meanwhile, anyone with eyesight can see that Toskala is completely lost, and even that isn’t exactly necessary, as hearing him speak is enough to tell that he’s not in the type of mental state that you need to play goal in the NHL. And I’ve traditionally liked Vesa, so this isn’t bashing of any kind.
by Malurous on Oct 13, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers defence made more egregious errors than the Leafs’ last night by a wide margin but Lundqvist bailed his team out repeatedly.
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by PPP on Oct 13, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would it be %.107 worse? Doubt it very very much.
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by PPP on Oct 13, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Komisarek is a cone in Toronto like he was in Montreal! Toskala is the worst NHL regular goaltender of the decade! MacDonald will lead the Leafs to their first win tonight.
by Fred Poulin on Oct 13, 2009 2:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Leafs outplayed the Habs in earning their lone point, but judging from some of the score lines and the highlights I’ve seen, they haven’t done much else.
It’ll be really interesting when Kessel returns; that’ll at least give an indication as to whether the trade was really worth it. I doubt it’ll be on the level of Kurvers for Niedermayer, but man, it ain’t lookin’ good.
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by Doogie2K on Oct 13, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Coles Notes Version of the Leafs Season
So far, they
Gave away the win against Montreal
Were completely outclassed by Washington, then made the score respectable when Washington left early.
Came out flat and lost to the refs vs. Ottawa.
Were outclassed by Pittsburgh
Played one good period and got hammered in the other two against the Rangers.
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by clrkaitken on Oct 13, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It’s early. If the Leafs were 4-1-0 would the move look genius? No.
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by PPP on Oct 13, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they were 4-1-0 in part because Kessel had 8 points? Well, it’d still be early, but I don’t think I’d have brought up Tom Kurvers in a blog comment, put it that way.
Without Kessel in the lineup, it’s impossible to judge the trade.
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by Doogie2K on Oct 13, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, to judge the Kessel trade you’d either like the benefit of hindsight or something glaringly obvious ie. “Kessel best player ever, draft abolished in 10 and 11”.
Gotcha. Great work.
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by Chemmy on Oct 13, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m saying you can’t judge fuck-all based on five games. Jesus Christ.
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by Doogie2K on Oct 13, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it ain’t lookin’ good.
No, you’re saying that the trade looks bad and then claiming it’s early when someone tries to discuss that point.
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by Chemmy on Oct 14, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh…
The optics look bad. The hockey element of the trade can’t be evaluated until Kessel’s played, and even if he had played in the first five (now six) games, it’d still be too early to evaluate, but it looks bad.
Are you always this much of a pedantic twat, or are you just in the bad mood because the Leafs are losing?
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by Doogie2K on Oct 14, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
You’re more sensitive about this than I’ve ever seen before.
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by PPP on Oct 14, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think I’m being sensitive. I just don’t like having to overclarify a point because someone’s decided they’re going to interpret it in the dumbest way possible.
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by Doogie2K on Oct 14, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you’re a Democrat?
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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 15, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Hey! That makes Chemmy a republican. He’s going to be a real twat about that.
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by PPP on Oct 15, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kurvers
As much as I loathe that people keep bringing up the Kurvers deal, it does have some eerie parallels to this, consider the 6 losses to begin the season
He was traded early in the 89-90 season. But the famous 1st rounder wasn’t the one from that season. It was next year’s 90-91 pick, which turned out to be a much deeper draft. Whether that was Lou getting lucky or savvy I don’t really know. But the man’s been known to have a horseshoe up his ass.
Kurvers actually played fairly well in his first season as a Leaf. 52 points in 70 games. The team played .500 and made the playoffs, losing in the 1st round.
It wasn’t until the next season that the trade turned ugly. I think they started something like 1-10. Team finished with 23 wins and 46 losses. Coach Doug Carpenter got fired.
The pick was a lottery one that turned out to be 3rd overall, which became Scott Niedermayer. The Devils won a bunch of Cups, and Leaf haters got a good decade of jokes out of it until it was briefly supplanted by subsequent trades for Wendel Clark and Owen Nolan.
I blame the fans.
by pevans on Oct 14, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit
So it’s the 2011 draft pick that is going to kill us?
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by PPP on Oct 14, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a big Leafs fan, but last year they were REALLY fun to watch(for me) because they played balls out every single night and while they lost a bunch, they won more than expected and gave everybody fits. It’s hard to get a feel for them this early in the season. I have noticed that they aren’t as much fun to watch this year so far, and I am REALLY not a Brian Burke fan. I can see the Kessel signing as adding some scoring punch, but the kid looks a little…ummmmm…juicy and soff, shall we say? This is just one guy’s opinion, and I’m certainly no expert, but he doesn’t strike me as a Burke/Wilson type of player. I will say that as a general hockey fan, I am looking forward to seeing how the new-look Leafs come together and I’m hoping to see some really good hockey from these guys. Long story short? I agree it’s too early to throw these guys under the bus, and for sure it’s too early for panicking by management.
by Rage6878 on Oct 13, 2009 9:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have noticed that they aren’t as much fun to watch this year so far
You’re spot on. This season’s Leafs look listless out there.
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by Chemmy on Oct 14, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda like the 08-09 Avalanche.
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by Mike @ MHH on Oct 14, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least we’ll have that third over…shit.
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by PPP on Oct 14, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad.
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