Why not put the NHL in the table?

I didn’t know if you had already started digging for it, so I did my own.

-All figures are from HockeyDB.com.
-For any pro leagues (NA or Euro), the numbers are from the last 4 years combined (post-lockout, I did not include Euro 04-05 numbers because of the large number of NA players due to the lockout)
-For any amateur leagues (NCAA, CIS, and all Junior), I included 04-05 for a 5th year of data.

Here we go. G/Game is multiplied by 2 for the overall scoring environment.

League GP G G/Game
NHL 9839 28846 5.86
AHL 8960 26463 5.91
ECHL 6932 22030 6.36
CHL 4160 13614 6.55
NCAA 11021 31752 5.76
CIS 2616 8893 6.80
QMJHL 6124 21552 7.04
WHL 7560 22651 5.99
OHL 6800 23365 6.87
KHL 1344 3682 5.48
DEL 3128 9654 6.17
Elitserien 2580 6973 5.41
CzechExtra 2184 5979 5.48
Nat A 2254 7014 6.22
SM-liiga 784 2041 5.21

Really, lookin from my perspective, this just strengthens my opinions: Swiss goaltenders rock. Really, Gerber, Hiller et al are in a QMJHL situation: they play in a difficult situation and have to be very good to thrive. As ridiculous as it sounds, the only elite league that you can watch in Finland without buying expensive TV packages is the Swiss league, so I’ve watched a lot of that. But frankly, the top goalies there right now are in their mid-30’s, so the real prospects here (I’ve watched KHL quite a bit and a couple of games of Finnish and Swedish leagues) are 1) Markstrom 2) Koskinen 3) Gustafsson (he’s the most NHL ready of the bunch, though, but I’ll be darned if he’s a starter. I was wrong about Finn Niklas Backstrom, though, so take my ideas with a grain of salt ;) ) and 4) Salak. And as ridiculous as it is with these guys (everyone is so young) I have no doubt in my mind that Salak pretty much could be the next Hasek. Really. He’s awesome, but he doesn’t have either the physical side or the successfull experience of the others, so I give no. 4 to him. He probably has the highest upside: I see Markstrom as a surefire borderline starter, but not much more, Koskinen as a probable good starter but maybe not that, Gustafsson as an almost sure borderline starter which he could be right now and Salak as a probable career backup / minor-leaguer who very well could be the second coming of whoever you think is the best goalie ever ;)

Yeah, I’m taking a relaxed opinion here, but what can you say, you never know about goalies. I wanted to make this comment on the post about Euro goalies but this is newer so here we go.

No surprise on the ECHL’s position, given the relative youth and lack of pro experience of the goaltenders, generally speaking.

They do put on a good show, though.

Inspired by your post on goalies earlier, I wanted to look at how many shots each goalie in the KHL was facing (discussion spawned between a friend and myself) and here’s the spreadsheet I got. It’s sorted by traditional GAA and there are the league averages on the bottom of the table. All “adjusted” numbers are using the league average shot-per-game rate imposed on the goalies core numbers — don’t know if that’s the best way to do it, but it seemed to get me where I wanted to go.

Anyone know anything about Sergey Gayduchenko or Vasily Koshechkin?

Also, James, Hockey Reference has the total goals per game being 5.83 in 2008-09 — is that because it counts shootout goals?