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Make It Seven set to spam the commissioner

In another move aimed at endearing Jim Balsilie to Gary Bettman, it appears the Make It Seven campaign is about to flood the NHL commissioner's inbox with email from Canadian hockey fans in the near future.

Here's a look at the form letter they've put together over at makeitseven.ca:

Dear Mr. Bettman:

Why not?

It's a simple question being asked by Canadian hockey fans like me. The nation that has the deepest roots and passion for the game of hockey, wants to know why can't we bring a seventh Canadian NHL hockey team to southern Ontario?

Star-divide

The NHL has already approved Mr. Balsillie as an NHL owner and in his ruling yesterday Judge Redfield T. Baum recognized that he is an approved NHL owner.

It is clear that Hamilton remains the best location for the Coyotes versus letting it wither in the desert. So why not?

In his ruling Judge Baum also encouraged the NHL and Jim Balsillie to sit down together in mediation to determine what a fair and reasonable relocation fee would be. Mr. Balsillie has said he's willing to participate in mediation. So why not?

We love this game and we know you do too. It's time for discussion. It's time to Make It Seven.

Why Not?

Sincerely a dedicated Canadian hockey fan.

More of the same, really.

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Yawn… guys give it up already, it isn’t going to happen.

by chileiceman on Jun 17, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A rather pathetic ploy in my opinion. Kicking sand has its place in the beginning of events like these, but now it can be rather damaging.

by hallock on Jun 17, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It appears to me that all these people are very inconsiderate to the loyal Coyotes fanbase.

Ow wait, I just read what went wrong in the previous sentence.

by Tommelot on Jun 17, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, they are being inconsiderate...

As are 99% of the people that comment on any post regarding the Coyotes…whatever…we could care less. When this team stops (i) paying Gretzky a fortune to not do crap; (ii) paying a fortune in rental space outside the arena to help the former owner Ellman; (iii) stops being used by Moyes as another personal asset to cook the books of all his business; and (iv) puts together a playoff run (something quite doable with the depth of young talent we have if the right coach is brought in), then we will be partying in Glendale like nobody’s business.

Let’s all not forget that the current Stanley Cup contenders would currently be playing in KC if it wasn’t for an exceptionally fortunate bit of drafting luck in getting Crosby and Malkin and Lemieux basically black-mailing Pennsylvania to build him an arena…

The Verizon Center was empty in DC before Boudreau took over and the team started winning…

Phoenix has plenty of hockey fans…but as with every other team in Phoenix, they won’t come out if the product on the ice sucks…

World Ph*cking Champs! That was fun - let's do it again...

by Moridin417 on Jun 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s annoy the commissioner even more. I’m sure that’ll put Balsillie in Bettman’s good books.

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by PRC on Jun 17, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Obviously the guy has some business sense, or else BlackBerrys wouldn’t be so popular. But why does the man have such a hard time identifying the difference between a business decision and a personal decision?

by hawksfan21 on Jun 18, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How to win friends and influence people....

Cyril Leeder (the new president of the Senators) was asked about this whole affair. I didn’t actually hear the interview but the reporting indicates that Cyril recalled the challenges Ottawa faced when trying to land one of the expansion spots. He apparently noted how they emphasized how they would be “good boys” in the NHL club (my interpretation). By playing nice, they got their franchise.

On the tactic of continuing to piss off the good ‘ole boys – "how’s that been working for you so far" comes to mind. I’m beginning to be embarrassed by all this.

by hockeycountry on Jun 17, 2009 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That and not objecting to the $50 million asking price

There’s a difference though. Balsillie actually has money, not like Firestone.
The only two groups that didn’t tell the NHL to shove their $50 million expansion fee were Ottawa and Tampa.

by Exit716 on Jun 17, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course, the competing Tampa ownership group that refused the $50M price tag – Pete Karmanos and Jim Rutherford – eventually made an offer on an existing franchise. And they got approved to buy it. Why? Because they didn’t go around needlessly pissing the Board of Governors off. They saved the aggravation for Connecticut where they had to use it, first to demand a new arena and second to get out of town when they got turned down (whether or not that was their plan all along). Business, not personal.

It’s personal for Balsillie now, and he’s making bad business decisions because of it. If he weren’t so damn impetuous, he would own a club that had just completed its first season in Hamilton.

That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the rafters in Greensboro didn't see any of this coming.

by JoshCVT on Jun 17, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m beginning to think Balsillie is basically just the money man and name recognition and that Rodier is running the show their (which isn’t a good thing). A couple of weeks ago there was an article on how this whole thing of getting a team out of bankruptcy and moving them around league rules was Rodier’s thing going back to the Senators attempt. Then there is that whole thing with JB not showing up to his own press conference yesterday.

by jkrdevil on Jun 18, 2009 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point of no return?

At some point this this exercise cross over the line into an expensive case of ego mania (actually another phrase came to mind but I kept it family friendly).

The last time I saw this much money wasted on a lost cause was when Michael Huffington spent $28 million of his own fortune in a futile effort to be elected Senator from the State of California.

by The Falconer on Jun 17, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

who cares if its annoying.

Bettman is 1,000,000 times more annoying than Basillie and his hellbent campaign to have a Toy Team to play with. this letter shouldnt even be asking “Why” Bettman won’t allow the sale – but why Bettman hasn’t gotten the hell out of the NHL already.

this whole issue obviously has a personal side. Bettman, if ever lets a team go to Hamilton, is only going to let some of his “boys” have that market and its eventual increased overall value.

how is this exercise “crossing the line” when 300 million lost “crossed the line” a long time ago. people love to be selective on analysis when theres a new topic of “annoying” to vent about. “forget historical process, im just annoyed with Basillie right now cause life in Canada is boring. why dont those Iranians get over their scammed election too? i mean, come on. it just looks childish now.”

by Savagist on Jun 18, 2009 1:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What a spectacular piece of mismanagement. I cannot recall seeing anything quite like this. I thought the pure legal strategy to date has been horribly ill-conceived, and even the average person on the street can see that; however, this sets the new standard.

by Gerald on Jun 18, 2009 6:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Aside from this latest act in a dopey faux-grass roots campaign, I see a legal strategy that has forced the NHL to hold an auction on a team that it wasn’t particularly anxious to sell in a public forum. I see a potential buyer who got a foot in the door he wouldn’t have otherwise have. I don’t know how that’s “horribly ill-conceived”.

What should Basillie have done to get control of an NHL franchise?

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by poploser on Jun 18, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not so on any count, IMO.

The NHL will be holding an auction that wil be subject to their own rules and restrictions at this point. the fact that it is public is neither here nor there. The NHL is presumably quite content to let it play out in the bankruptcy court because it will provide them with the necessary leverage to ensure that the City of Glendale does not renege on their promised concessions.

JB HAD his foot in the door on both PITT and even NASH, as evidenced by JB’s own sworn declarations and NHL correspondence released in the court documents. He has now firmly closed his own door.

Trust me, the notion that one can force oneself into a partnership/JV through legal force is beyond ludicrous as a legal strategy. There is not a single colleague who i have spoken to about this who has not rolled his or her eyes at this proposition.

How would i have done it? In short, I would have continued down the path that I was going with PITT. If I had to buy a team and keep it there, I would have done so, taken my lumps, developed goodwill among my partners and looked to move my team if things ever got too hairy, at which time I would have earned trust and sympathy.

by Gerald on Jun 18, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Add to that the fact that the NHL and its owners are now talking about how much it would potentially cost to locate a new franchise in Southern Ontario. Previously, they weren’t even open to discussing the possibility.

The ball has been moved down the field.

by dzuunmod on Jun 18, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have no idea whether they were discussing it or not. Frankly, to assume that just because they were not debating it in the media they were not discussing it behind closed doors is quite naive. I strongly suspect that they had a very good idea what they were thinking of charging for a SO team.

Nothing has been moved down the field just because they are forced to muse about it in open court.

by Gerald on Jun 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How long do you suppose they were going to talk about it in private?

It’s ridiculous to suggest that public talk amongst the BOG (albeit anonymous) isn’t progress.

by dzuunmod on Jun 18, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Further, Jim Balsillie isn’t the first person who’s mused about the viability of a second team in Southern Ontario – this is a story that’s been out there for years for the NHL to address.

If you care to show me where they’ve done so in the past with anything other than a curt, “We are not looking at Southern Ontario as an option right now,” I’ll eat my words. But the fact is, they’ve been forced to address it differently than that now. I call that progress.

by dzuunmod on Jun 18, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Public talk is of no consequence whatsoever, sorry. The only discussions that matter are the ones around the BoG table. Sorry if it upsets you that discussions in the media are not a catalyst to anything, but there it is.

by Gerald on Jun 18, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It does put more pressure on the board, if only from a public relations perspective. These guys don’t live in a bubble, and all of the speculation about the worth of that team has put the wheels in motion.

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by James Mirtle on Jun 18, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is only relevant if one assumes that the wheels were not already in motion to the limited extent that they are now.

IMO Southern Ontario public reaction means precisely squat to the NHL owners, especially the 29 ones who live elsewhere. Does anyone seriously believe that the newspaper blitz in toronto exerts even an ounce of pressure on those other owners? Come on. This is Toronto-centric thinking at its finest.

by Gerald on Jun 18, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They care about the cash involved, though, and if anything, these proceeding should prove how badly some people want that team around here. I’m sure it’s opened eyes in places like Atlanta, etc., where they may not be well-versed in the GTA market.

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by James Mirtle on Jun 18, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They should care about how their new “partners” the NHLPA feel about the issue as well.

by yrmom on Jun 18, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh. It would surprise Americans to know that a large number of Canadians love hockey?

In other news today, scientists have discovered that water is indeed wet.

by Gerald on Jun 19, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it’d surprise Americans how successful a team in a place they’ve never heard of would be.

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by James Mirtle on Jun 19, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Successful financially, at least… these ARE the Phoenix Coyotes we’re discussing, remember?

You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers.

by zyllyx on Jun 19, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know how fair the statement about Americans not having heard of Canadian cities really is. How many of us can’t even name all 50 of our states? We’re not very geographically sound.

by hawksfan21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That basically sums it up.

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by PPP on Jun 18, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The passion that unites us all?

by dzuunmod on Jun 18, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts exactly.

2008-2009 Colorado Avalanche: Dry Humping Mediocrity

by Mike @ MHH on Jun 18, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it any less insulting when Molson Canadian uses it in every tv add they put out? Or when you go to the grocery store and there’s a maple leaf on a product with the tag ‘made in Canada’? Nationalism is a marketing tool but how is this particular instance more insulting than the other thousands of example, both in Canada and the US?

by Habs on Jun 18, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s insulting to disguise a marketing campaign by pretending it’s all about bringing a team to Canada. It’s insulting to my intelligence to insinuate that 10 000 form letters would convince Bettman to change his mind about a hundred million dollar decision. If he only understood that we love hockey so much.

Plus, it’s one thing to use nationalism by making people feel proud of themselves (“I Am Canadian”) to hawk your product. It’s another thing to use nationalism to make people feel victimized and angry (which is where “Make it Seven” is now heading).

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Jun 18, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s definitely a fine line they’re now in danger of crossing.

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by James Mirtle on Jun 18, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Insert heavy sigh here.

What a bunch of tits.

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by Doogie2K on Jun 18, 2009 9:06 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Why Hamilton, anyway?

If there is to be a seventh team in Canada — an idea that I certainly do not have an issue with, by the way — then why not go back to Quebec, or Winnipeg… or put one in Halifax?

Either of those three cities has a lot more going for it than Hamilton, which most people in the US (when they think of it at all) think of as nothing more than Toronto’s red-headed stepchild.

I’d be all over an NHL version of the Nova Scotia Voyageurs, or the return of the Nordiques… Hamilton? Meh. Not so much, and not so exciting.

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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 18, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The idea is that Hamilton will be able to attract corporate support and fans from the largest market in Canada. Quebec, Winnipeg, and Halifax are all too small for an NHL team.

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by PPP on Jun 18, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I would love to see come out of all this is the NHL’s formal and independent studies showing it what markets in the US and Canada would actually be “good” markets to expand into. I mean, the NHL certainly has studies like that, right?

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by poploser on Jun 18, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they don't now...

…then they’d better by God have them after this is wrapped up.

I’m virulently anti-relocation for obvious reasons, but Bettman is not going to be able to put off the GTA for long. Nor, IMO, should he. He SHOULD be commissioning studies, talking to the Toronto and Buffalo ownership about getting a GTA team in there in terms that are acceptable to all parties, and working on getting Winnipeg or Quebec City back in the league.

I still think a two-team Canadian expansion would be Gary’s best bet (har… bad pun!) for PR as well as taking some of the pressure off struggling US franchises.

You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers.

by zyllyx on Jun 18, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quebec, Winnipeg, and Halifax are all too small for an NHL team.

Not necessarily…

Quebec and Winnipeg both have larger metro populations than Hamilton, according to Statistics Canada.

Where Hamilton benefits is from being located in the middle of Canada’s largest agglomeration of people, in the heavily-populated area of Southern Ontario between Detroit and Toronto along the lakefront.

Halifax, okay… it’s too small for the NHL. But Quebec and Winnipeg are not. The money argument may stand up, but not the population one.

Based on population and demonstrated hockey interest, a similar argument could probably be made to move the AHL’s Chicago Wolves into the NHL, or to place a second NHL club in the Palace of Auburn Hills (MI).

Hamilton just doesn’t have that sexy image… putting an NHl team there may make financial sense, but aesthetically, it’s like putting an NHL team in Allentown.

"If we do not prepare for ourselves the role of the hammer, there will be nothing left but that of the anvil."

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by Tomorrows Blues on Jun 19, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where Hamilton benefits is from being located in the middle of Canada’s largest agglomeration of people, in the heavily-populated area of Southern Ontario between Detroit and Toronto along the lakefront.

Well, yes. This means that Hamilton is significantly larger, in all of the relevant ways to this discussion, than either Winnipeg or Quebec.

by J. Michael Neal on Jun 19, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

CMAs in Canada do not overlap like the various levels of statistical areas do in the US. In Winnipeg and Quebec City, that’s irrelevant — there are no urban centers close by. But CMA #10 Hamilton is very tightly hemmed in by CMAs #1 Toronto, #11 Kitchener, and #12 St. Catharines-Niagara.

If Hamilton’s CMA boundary were drawn as far out of the city center as the boundaries for Winnipeg and Quebec, they’d pull large chunks off all three of the next-door neighbors and easily surpass those two.

That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the rafters in Greensboro didn't see any of this coming.

by JoshCVT on Jun 19, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hamilton would have more financial backing than any of those options.

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by James Mirtle on Jun 18, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Jimmy Big Bucks and his legal team finally found Chapter 3 (“Annoy the $h!t out of Them”) of the award-winning book “How to Make Sure You NEVER Get What You’re Asking For”.

Chapter 1 was “Lying Repeatedly”, Chapter 2 was “Circumvent the Rules”.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jun 18, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The emotions that this campaign has been stirring give me serious concern that something ugly (beyond the usual booing) is going to take place when Bettman steps to the podium in Montreal on Draft Day. If I was advising him, I’d tell him to create an excuse to stay home. I sincerely hope people attending the draft will remember the importance of that day for the kids being drafted and their families and act accordingly.

Gerald can speak for himself but I would say a legal strategy is “ill conceived” if you give the judge a perfect excuse to kick the ball down the field (which he was always likely to do) by poor planning and poor timing.

On another Balsille pr ploy, the attempt to pin the word “subsidy” on possible lease concessions by Glendale, it might interest people to know that Research in Motion received $38.6 million in what a taxpayer group calls “corporate welfare” from Industry Canada. Most of that was, I suspect during the startup years which is normal but who can say that (in NHL terms) the Coyotes aren’t also in their startup phase? If you oppose government subsidies because “millionaires” are involved then think about the massive subsidies that Hollywood receives from from US cities and states for shooting on location. They are in a similar business (entertainment) and they make a lot more money from their product than NHL owners do. If you oppose subsidies on principled grounds, as, say the Austrian School of economists does, then fine. But if you just buy into the anger that Rodier and others try to create by using “subsidy” as a synonym for “corporate welfare”, I say you are naive about how developed economies function.

by Big Picture Guy on Jun 18, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You need not even resort to RIM on the subsidy issue, Big Picture Guy. JB’s deal with the City of Hamilton contemplates the federal and provincial government footing the bill for the necessary major improvements to Copps to the tune of ~$140 million or so.

Given this to be the case, the latest “strategy” (and I use quotation marks on purpose) of Rodier/Walker is beyond hilarious. It is stupefyingly disingenuous, even more so than one would expect from PR hacks. I understand that there was a great deal of attention paid in the PR world (and credit delivered) to the manner in which Maple Leaf Foods handled the listeriosis matter, in that rather than following the “book” of PR, they came out in an extremely transparent and forthright manner. It seems that Rodier/Walker have dismissed that approach entirely. Although they are seemingly insulated from accusation sof hypocrisy at this point by a still-fawning media, my spidey sense tells me the worm may turn in that regard. I listened to McCown and Brunt give Rodier a relatively rough go of it on the Fan590 this week, and you would not find two more ardent supporters of JB’s efforts (although it is probably a Bettman-hating exercise on their part to some extent as well).

by Gerald on Jun 18, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The endgame goal will find a ton of support from a lot of people in this area, but the methodology here (and the level of success its having) is beginning to really be questioned.

Unless the goal was more to embarrass the league than bring a team to Hamilton.

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by James Mirtle on Jun 18, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is a distinct possibility given the personalities at play.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jun 18, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

… and they shall know us by the size of their inboxes!

Don’t click send until you see the whites of their eyes!

… there’s got to be more in there that we could be doing

by hawksfan21 on Jun 18, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m beginning to get more sick of hearing about Balsillie’s schemes than I was hearing about Sidney Crosby’s monster talent.

I guess my consolation is that Pierre McGuire isn’t commentating the legal proceedings.

by Jo4nny on Jun 18, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Amen brother.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jun 18, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

“We got to Pierre McGuire with another edition of Behind the Bench.”

He’ll interview the judge while a witness is being cross-examined.

by J. Michael Neal on Jun 18, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

‘Gord, that’s why this lawyer’s a MONSTER. Did you hear that argument? This is a MONSTER speaking. Covers his angles, makes himself look BIG, calm and confident. He’s the MONSTER performer of the night Gord!!’

by Habs on Jun 19, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*ROFL*

I always wondered if during one of the NBC broadcasts where Pierre is between the benches whether one of the players seated next to him didn’t just want to “accidentally” spear the dude in the solar plexus…

You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers.

by zyllyx on Jun 19, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Look at that active laser pointer. Check out that active pointer RIGHT there. STOP THE TAPE. You see that, Mike? He’s got this display and he’s hitting EVERY part of it with the pointer. Just a GREAT active pointer, Mike.”

That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the rafters in Greensboro didn't see any of this coming.

by JoshCVT on Jun 19, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs


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