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The Kwiatkowski Situation (and how it relates to Hudler's jump to the KHL)

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"After agreeing to terms on a contract with Joel Kwiatkowski, we learned that he had already committed to a team in the K.H.L.," said Atlanta general manager Don Waddell in response to an e-mail inquiry late Thursday. "Therefore we have rescinded our offer and have been told that Joel will honor his agreement with St. Petersburg."

— Jeff Klein, Slap Shot Blog

Kwiatkowski is a 32-year-old defenceman who has played all of 282 NHL games, so you'll forgive me for not making a huge deal out of the fact he signed with the Thrashers three days ago.

Then, on Wednesday, the KHL raised a huge stink over the signing, with KHL president and St. Petersburg head Alex Medvedev blowing his stack over the "scandalous situation" in the local press (my thanks to Tuvan from Japers' Rink for the translation, available here):

"We assumed that the KHL and NHL would honor a gentleman’s agreement" said Medvedev. "Therefore we didn’t sign a single player having an NHL contract. We didn’t even make any offers, even though agents for a whole host of world-class hockey players themselves came to the KHL clubs with the desire to enter into contract negotiations."

"Please notice that, unlike in the NHL, we have a procedure for dissolution of active contracts. We aren’t familiar with the slave-holding rules which are applied to NHL players. We understand that there are a lot of different circumstances—personal, family, medical…"

"And now, to our surprise, we found out that Atlanta has, beyond any shadow of a doubt, signed a player who already has a two-year contract with SKA. And Atlanta didn’t even see fit to consult with either the KHL or the St. Petersburg team."

There's apparently been an enormous fuss over the contract made in Russia, and one of the questions Medvedev was even asked was if a KHL team should now offer Ilya Kovalchuk a $20-million per year contract as a way of punishing the Thrashers.

Late last night, as quoted above, Waddell and the Thrashers rescinded the offer, likely after pressure from the NHL and IIHF over the dispute.

Which is where Jiri Hudler comes in.

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As TSN's Darren Dreger outlined earlier today, Hudler is about to become the focal point of a similar dispute, with this one pitting the Red Wings against the KHL. Hudler's signed a very lucrative two-year deal with Dynamo Moscow but has "played the field" to a degree by also filing for arbitration in the NHL, and that's where the fight's going to begin.

Dreger writes that the NHL "has approached both the IIHF and KHL, seeking their intervention. According to the NHL, Hudler is contractually obligated to the Red Wings for next season."

In general terms, going to arbitration doesn't necessarily guarantee a player he'll have a contract, and Hudler remains a restricted free agent for the time being. Given it doesn't appear he'll come to terms with Detroit of his own accord, an arbitrator will then come up with a contract figure that the Red Wings can then walk away from.

At that point, Hudler would be an unrestricted free agent.

Is he "contractually obligated," then, simply by electing for arbitration? I suppose we'll find out. He wasn't able to receive an offer sheet from another NHL club, at least.

I can't help but see some linkage here between the fact the NHL so easily rescinded Kwiatkowski's deal, enforcing the "gentleman's agreement," and that they're now fighting for Hudler to be released from his.

If that's the trade, the KHL loses out.

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That is a ’stache that Time Forgot. Impressive.

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by jamestobrien on Jul 10, 2009 1:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously. I want him to come play for the Flames. That ’stache would guarantee us a long playoff run.

by Subversive on Jul 10, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I imagine this is going to be a non-issue, with Hudler eventually headed to Russia. I think Holland has pretty much indicated that the Detroit can’t afford him.

In any event, I don’t think Medvedev is going to do anything stupid like offer a contract to Kovalchuk. There’s too much at stake for Russia here – if the KHL heats things up again then they can kiss the NHL’s participation in Sochi 2014 goodbye.

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by PRC on Jul 10, 2009 1:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What’s the KHL’s interest in the NHL sending players to Sochi? I’m not familiar with the KHL, but my first reaction was that no NHLers means more KHLers, and the exposure and advertising dollars that stem from that.

by Its Cold In Here on Jul 10, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Russia wants to show their dominance in hockey. They want the best of the NHL’s North Americans to show up in Sochi and get rolled over by Ovechkin and co.

No NHL players means that ice hockey at the Olympics takes a huge prestige hit. What is supposed to be a marquee event on the world stage becomes a throwaway tournament and an insult to Russia.

Where does the KHL come in? Well, hockey in Russia is essentially a public-private partnership (e.g., the main backer of the league is Gazprom, which is majority state-owned), and in this instance, professional hockey takes a backseat to the “bigger stage” of 2014.

"Without good hard work, it is impossible to reach the pinnacle of success." - Anatoli Tarasov

by PRC on Jul 10, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like how they’re touting their ‘player release’ clause, when a few years back, albeit before the KHL, Malkin pretty much had to defect from Russia to play in the NHL.

And how is this different from the Nitty situation? They throw a hissy fit over Kwiatkowski but I haven’t heard anything this over Nitty

by Hansmoleman on Jul 10, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Niittymaki’s now saying he didn’t sign anything. My sources said they had his name on a “preliminary contract,” one that, I’m sure, had out clauses in the event he received an NHL offer.

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by James Mirtle on Jul 10, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It says Hulder up top, not Hudler.

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by RudyKelly on Jul 10, 2009 3:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Beautiful… thanks RK.

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by James Mirtle on Jul 10, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quote of the year

“…unlike in the NHL, we have a procedure for dissolution of active contracts. We aren’t familiar with the slave-holding rules which are applied to NHL players.”

I’m prepared to adhere to the Russians’ concept of contract law when they agree to, you know, develop some contract law, or a functional court system, or a democracy. Little things like that.

by garth the hoser on Jul 10, 2009 6:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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by yrmom on Jul 10, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

International disputes.

I can’t help but remember what happened with the Predators player Alexander Radulov, which has caused quite a stink here in Nashville, and the effect has been felt in this years draft. If you’ll notice, very few of those picked were Russians residing in Russia. I’d thought that there were agreements in the works to minimize these situations, but it seems knowing which players are available and being able to trust those sources isn’t as open as I think it could be.

by cherney on Jul 11, 2009 1:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

“We assumed that the KHL and NHL would honor a gentleman’s agreement” said Medvedev. “Therefore we didn’t sign a single player having an NHL contract. We didn’t even make any offers, even though agents for a whole host of world-class hockey players themselves came to the KHL clubs with the desire to enter into contract negotiations.”

Wasn’t Radulov under contract with the Preds at the time of his signing by a KHL team? How is that respecting a ’gentleman’s agreement’ ?

by Habs on Jul 11, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm relying on memory for this ...

But I think the argument that was made at the time was that Radulov agreed to his KHL contract about five days before the “gentlemen’s agreement” was to have taken effect, according to the Russians. So in their opinion Radulov was not subject to their agreement.

I hope a Nashville fan can correct this if I got it wrong.

(Radulov struck me as very talented, but a little flighty – kind of the male equivalent of a stereotypical ditzy cheerleader.)

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by Baroque on Jul 11, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now that you mention, I totally remember this thing about the non-official agreement the leagues had, and the fact that Radulov had signed before this deal went into effect… that was sneaky on the Russians’ part there.

by Habs on Jul 12, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe that there was a week for so period where there was no type of transfer agreement between the two leagues. The Russians were mad that the NHL would poach their talent without compensation, but I’m pretty sure the only transfer was Radulov going back to Russia.

by Hansmoleman on Jul 12, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Hudler arbitration at this point seems a bit silly, but the NHL and NHLPA, while drafting the CBA, didn’t expected the KHL to be so active and didn’t anticipate a case like this. I wonder if the Red Wings can and will use the fact that Hudler wants to go to Russia in arbitration – this argument has potential to lead to Hudler’s value dropping and Detroit being able to afford him. This possibility could make the battle over Hudler’s current status really heated.

by -V- on Jul 11, 2009 10:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The only way we can afford him is if he won’t play for us.

by J. Michael Neal on Jul 11, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs


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