Picking A Captain: Is Youth Overtaking Experience?
Washington's Alex Ovechkin and Carolina's Eric Staal are the two newest members to the NHL's captains club. Their differences are many. On the ice, Ovechkin is as dynamic as they come, dazzling onlookers with blazing speed, a lethal shot and thunderous hits. Staal thrives in the offensive zone, using his wingspan and frame to protect the puck and create for himself and his teammates. The Caps’ leader is outgoing and spontaneous, whereas the Hurricanes’ "C" is steady and measured.
Are either ready to lead their team? It's hard to say — Mike Richards has seen first hand how difficult it is to handle the responsibility of being an NHL captain at such a young age, especially in a feeding frenzy market like Philadelphia. But despite the turmoil surrounding him and the Flyers this season, Richards has withstood the storm and positioned his team to be a factor in the Eastern Conference.
What do all three have in common? Youth and long contracts. And those two attributes are growing trend among today's NHL captains. Once led by rugged veterans who had seen everything a sheet of ice can present, teams are beginning to shift their leadership roles to young players inked to multiyear deals. But is having a 20-something player lead your team the way to go?
For the purposes of our discussion, we're going to group the league's captains into three categories:
- Seasoned Veterans: These captains are 35 or older and have "seen it all," so to speak.
- In Their Prime: Spanning from 28 to 34 years old, most of these captains have worked their way up the ladder to wearing the "C."
- Young Bucks: This is the 27 and younger set, players that are often their team's best player or were pegged for the captaincy from the moment they were drafted.
When you count up the 28 captains in the NHL — Toronto and Montreal do not currently have a captain — the breakdown between these three groups is fairly equal:
- Seasoned Veterans (8): Scott Niedermayer, ANA, 36; Craig Rivet, BUF, 35; Adam Foote, COL, 38; Nicklas Lidstrom, DET, 39; Jason Arnott, NSH, 35; Doug Weight, NYI, 39; Daniel Alfredsson, 37; Rob Blake, SJ, 40
- In Their Prime (11): Zdeno Chara, BOS, 32; Jarome Iginla, CGY, 32; Brenden Morrow, DAL, 31; Ethan Moreau, EDM, 34; Bryan McCabe, FLA, 34; Jamie Langenbrunner, NJ, 34; Chris Drury, NYR, 33; Shane Doan, PHX, 33; Eric Brewer, STL, 30; Vincent Lecavalier, TB, 29; Roberto Luongo, VAN, 30
- Young Bucks (9): Ilya Kovalchuk, ATL, 26; Staal, CAR, 25; Jonathan Toews, CHI, 21; Rick Nash, CLB, 25; Dustin Brown, LA, 25; Mikko Koivu, MIN, 26; Richards, PHI, 24; Sidney Crosby, PIT, 22; Ovechkin, WSH, 24
As for their on-ice success, only three of these players have worn the C for a Stanley Cup champion — Niedermayer, Lidstrom and Crosby — and all did so with their current teams. Lidstrom also won the Cup three other times with the Red Wings, and Niedermayer three previous times in New Jersey. Eight others have been on Cup-winning teams: Foote (twice), Blake and Drury in Colorado, Langenbrunner in Dallas and New Jersey, Arnott also in New Jersey, Weight and Staal in Carolina, and Lecavalier with Tampa Bay.
Until the past two seasons, results dictated that if you wanted to win the Stanley Cup your captain should be: a) North American, preferably Canadian; and b) from either the "seasoned veteran" or "in their prime" group. Lidstrom changed this two seasons ago — much to Don Cherry's dismay, I'm sure — when he became the first European captain to hoist the Stanley Cup. Last year, Crosby added to it by becoming the youngest Cup-winning captain in NHL history at 21 years old.
In the eight seasons before Lidstrom won his Cup, the average age of Stanley Cup captains was nearly 35, the median age between 35 and 36, and only American-born Derian Hatcher (coincidentally the "Young Buck" captain of the group of eight at age 26 when leading the Stars) was not a Canadian.
With Lidstrom and Crosby bucking the trends, can we presume the rules have changed? There's no denying that more and more Europeans are being named captains (currently six), but are we also entering an era where not only are young players making it to the NHL sooner, but also being placed in top leadership roles?
Yes and no.
There has definitely been a shift, with the younger set wearing the C much more frequently than before. Out of the current NHL captains that are 28 and older, only Morrow, Iginla and Doan were captains for their current team during their "Young Buck" phase — and at the tail end at that. (Lecavalier was named Tampa Bay's captain in March 2000 at 19 years old, but was stripped of the "C" before gaining it back prior to the 2008-09 season)
With nine different teams currently sporting young captains, one can't deny the trend. But here's where the "no" comes in: seven of the nine young captains are signed for at least three more seasons (Kovalchuk, as we all know, is an unrestricted free agent at season's end; Koivu has another year on his deal), and of those seven, only Crosby (three years remaining and currently 22) and Toews (five-year extension starts next season and he's currently 21) are young enough that their current deals won't take them into the "in their prime" age bracket. That means in five, six, or seven years down the road, players like Ovechkin, Staal, Nash and Richards will — unless they're traded or stripped of their captaincy — have moved into their primes wearing the C for their respective teams. Even some players currently in their late 20s and early 30s like Lecavalier and Luongo will, presumably, move up a bracket and join the elder statesmen category of captains if they play out their deals. So something that is a trend now will look, down the road, quite different.
So, yes, the youth movement is on. But with long-term deals in place for several of the NHL's younger captains, it's hard to imagine the league will have more and more young captains in the next decade. Time will tell whether or not hitching your wagon to a young player is now the preferred road to the Stanley Cup. It worked for Pittsburgh, but can it pay dividends for Chicago, Philadelphia or Washington? Could the Sharks' 40-year-old captain reclaim the throne for the NHL's elders, or Calgary's long-time captain make a case for those in their prime?
In a copycat league, the answer to that question could dictate where each of the NHL's 30 C's gets stitched.
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I can’t help but think in the case of Kovy, Nash, and maybe Koivu (I’m not well-versed in all things Wild, so feel free to disagree with that), it’s just a matter of "you’re the best player we have and the one that’s been around the longest. Here’s the “C”!
Cory, I’m surprised you didn’t go more into depth about the transfer of captaincy from Brind’Amour to Staal. And how many of these “young bucks” will go by the way of Brind’Amour – losing their captaincy because the game has simply passed them by and there’s a younger leader on the team? Was Brind’Amour happy (relatively speaking) with losing the captaincy because he realized his job was done with the ’06 Cup run and Staal was taking over eventually anyways?
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We’ve covered the Staal-Brind’Amour thing pretty thoroughly over at Canes Country. I wouldn’t say he was happy, but he’s a team guy and handled it with class. Jim Rutherford gave Rod veto power over the decision in case he was uncomfortable with the move, but No. 17 graciously stepped aside. Rod’s on-ice struggles are pretty documented and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him retire after the season even though his cap hit ($3.6M) is locked in for next year regardless (35+ contract) and he’d be leaving $3M on the table.
As for the first three guys you mentioned, I think the Kovy captaincy was part of a pitch to keep him in Atlanta. Perhaps Nash falls into the “best player” category, but Koivu has the C bloodlines, so to speak.
by Cory Lavalette on Jan 27, 2010 7:29 AM CST up reply actions
I believe that Nash asked for it
after the Foote trade. If I recall correctly, he came out and publicly stated that he should be the guy and that he embraced the attendant responsibility.
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Thx SL … just to clarify, I wasn’t saying he wasn’t worthy of the C. In fact, he might be best suited out of everyone on that roster now that Peca’s gone.
by Cory Lavalette on Jan 27, 2010 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
To me, it appears that teams are equating talent with leadership abilities. If you notice, most of the names on those lists are guys making far above the league minimum. So I’m not sure what the thinking is there. Is it, the face of the team should be its leading goal scorer since that’s who all the fans know anyway? Or is it, these guys can play so they deserve the “C”? Obviously, leadership ability is not being seriously taken into account.
Frankly, I think it’s all Mark Messier’s fault. Here’s a guy with talent who happened to also be a fantastic leader – who won a Stanley Cup by carrying the team on his back. Every single team in the league is dying for a guy like that. So it makes me think that they believe that if they give a guy a “C” who can score, they’ll magically turn into Mark Messier. When, in reality, most star players are not very good leaders – which is why they’re star players to begin with. It’s a whole ’nother mentality going on there.
Typically, the guys with that classic captain mentality are the grinders who had to fight tooth and nail to get in to the league. But they’re being passed over simply because they’re not household names. And that’s pretty ridiculous, if you ask me. It does the fans and the players a great disservice.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jan 27, 2010 8:12 AM CST reply actions
That’s why Buffalo fans pushed for Paul Gaustad as captain, though Rivet has fit the bill admirably. Goose is tough, he plays hard every night, and is an important voice in the room. He will be the most likely candidate to take over the C after Rivet is done here.
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To me, it appears that teams are equating talent with leadership abilities. If you notice, most of the names on those lists are guys making far above the league minimum. So I’m not sure what the thinking is there. Is it, the face of the team should be its leading goal scorer since that’s who all the fans know anyway?
You put it better than I did with my original question, but that’s what I was trying to get at as well.
Talent often times does equal leadership. But then you have the Ovechkin situation where he is now the captain. Is he the captain because he’s Alex Ovechkin? Or is it because they “don’t have anyone better” to put it bluntly? However, Ovechkin is the face of the franchise (and probably the NHL), so put the C on him and forget it. I can’t really say I disagree with that decision.
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On this topic, there were many who thought Tim Gleason should get consideration as Carolina’s captain b/c he brings that do-anything-to-win mentality (like a Jason Smith, per se). But in making your best player your C, do you heap more responsibility on him and perhaps make him a better player? Does his work ethic improve — not to say Staal or anyone’s is bad — so that he can lead his team by example? All interesting points of conversation.
by Cory Lavalette on Jan 27, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
And then you have what you do in Buffalo.
Ryan Miller is the clear, undisputed leader of the franchise, yet they can’t put the C on him. That’s not to diminish Rivet, the official captain, but it’s a fact. Miller holds more weight in that locker room than Rivet (or even Gaustad) can ever pray to have.
That’s another reason why us fans were surprised when Rivet was given the C after arriving in Buffalo – there is that core group of players that came through the system together. Miller, Vanek, Roy, Gaustad, Pominville. It was almost natural for Gaustad to be that next captain.
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Actually, I’ve seen Ovechkin at training camp and play live, and I can tell you that he is one of their top leaders. It’s not just that he’s got talent. He’s one of the few exceptions on that list, tho. But, I’m sure part of why he got the “C” is because he is who he is as well.
Peter Forsberg, when he was named captain in Philly – that was disastrous. Forsberg’s one of my favorite all-time players. He’s arguably the best hockey player to have come out of Sweden, and one of the best in the world when healthy, but he was definitely not captain material. Not by a long shot.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jan 27, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
Typically, the guys with that classic captain mentality are the grinders who had to fight tooth and nail to get in to the league. But they’re being passed over simply because they’re not household names. And that’s pretty ridiculous, if you ask me. It does the fans and the players a great disservice.
This is true in some cases, but not the Ovechkin one. When you have someone who is as talented as he is, and who is as outgoing and has such a strong personality, he is going to be the team leader whether you give him the C or not. By making it official, hopefully you impress upon him the responsibilities he has assumed by being who he is. It’s one thing if you’re talking about Pavel Datsyuk, who is much quieter, but Ovechkin is going to be at the front of the parade. Might as well recognize that.
by J. Michael Neal on Jan 27, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
great stuff Cory
I know from a lot of Predator fans perspective, we’re tiring of the job Jason Arnott does as captain. He disappears regularly and doesn’t play with a lot of drive or work ethic. When he does, there isn’t a better Predator. But those times are few and far between as he gets older. If it weren’t for Patric Hornqvist and Shea Weber the Predators would probably be rubbing shoulders with the Blues in the standings.
That said, I’d look for Nashville at some point in the next year or two to hand over the reins to a young guy. I see Shea Weber as the quintessential captain and heir apparent, but wouldn’t be surprised nor would I mind seeing Ryan Suter get the C (he was a shock choice for USA Alternate.)
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On this topic … there are some spots that might open after this year. Captains with expiring deals:
• Weight, NYI
• McCabe, FLA
• Lidstrom, DET
• Foote, COL
• Kovalchuk, ATL
• Niedermayer, ANA
• Blaker, SJ
Plus you have the Montreal and Toronto captaincies to consider. There are seven more with just one year left on their contract.
by Cory Lavalette on Jan 27, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
I still can’t believe both the Leafs and the Habs don’t have captains. Shows what kind of state both of those franchises are in and the pressure that comes with wearing the C in those cities.
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Part of the problem in Montreal is that the french press wants a french speaking Captain (as they want a french speaking coach) for sound bites. There isn’t anyone french even remotely qualified to be the Captain on this team though…
Not saying this is the only reason there isn’t a Captain, but it has to play a role. If the press can have enough influence to ‘force’ the team to hire a french speaking coach…
and Toronto doesn’t have anyone near worthy of the C… there’s a serious lack of consistent effort on the team, and even some decent players who work hard seem be crumbling under the mere pressure of playing in Toronto, let alone wearing the C.
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Most players have their best statistical years at 25-27, so I’m not sure what “in their prime” means here.
The “C” is also a key in marketing your team to your fanbase. I think that’s why we’ve seen a trend for the younger guys recently. Youth = “we’re on the rise!” It’s a marketing strategy… let’s put our young star on the billboards, in the big painting on the side of the arena, in the newspapers…. and let’s put a C on him so the fans REALLY identify with him, plus it’s an extra charge to put a C on your Ovechkin jersey, and everyone will want to have it!
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I don’t disagree that statistically players (forwards more so) can be better in the 25-27 range. But I think in your late 20s to early 30s you put everything together. Your skills haven’t deteriorated yet, you’re more mature, ect.
by Cory Lavalette on Jan 27, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
I think the marketing aspect is definitely key. When Mats Sundin was named captain for the Leafs, he replaced two extremely popular players in Wendel Clark and Doug Gilmour. A young player just approaching his prime who grew into the role immensely, but it was still a move to appease many sceptical fans who never warmed to Sundin fully. One can argue it was Toronto’s way of also justifying the Sundin for Clark trade to the negative fan-base by simply pointing out, “Hey, we didn’t just trade Clark for some scrub!”
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Most teams likely want some stability in their captaincy, a voice who will hold some authority because he will be there a long time – the players who are most likley to stick around under the salary cap are the high-priced stars, for untradeable contract reasons as well as his talent and the team’s marketing and community relations efforts. Maybe teams don’t want to give a letter to an older player or a more hard-working grinder because they are more easily replaced and they don’t like the picture that dumping a captain in favor of a younger, cheaper option paints for their fans.
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Good stuff, Cory.
I think that for these young players, it comes down to talent and contract. It’s almost like you’re gonna be there a while, so here’s the C and you’ll figure it out. I don’t think Mike Richards was ready for what was down the road for him, and maybe having Pronger in the locker room doesn’t help.
But I agree with Saskhab — a lot of it is marketing.
Don’t forget that your captain needs to be a guy who gets regular playing time, as well.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Jan 27, 2010 2:28 PM CST reply actions
I expect Parise to be joining your young buck
group in the next 2-3 years. I think Langs is a great captain, but everyone in the organization says he’s the future captain. Langenbrunner himself has said as much. I think it’s even possible his new contract this summer comes with a C.
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